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you're in the para cast the

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gold-standard a paranormal radio and now

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here's gene Steinberg you know every

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week on the power cast we get lots and

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lots of responses from listeners okay

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should we get reviews and for some

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people like us some people don't like us

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some people are somewhere in the middle

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of the road but I got a really weird

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review I found over at iTunes

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some people are iTunes have a very

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confused way of evaluating the show you

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know they evaluate commercials not the

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show that's one group of people then we

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have this one it says sounds like a pair

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of uncles who know too much about stuff

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you don't want to know the random

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episodes i graph made me skip through

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most of it just turn it off sorry just a

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waste of my time we are a pair of uncles

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what about the guests didn't you hear

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the guests hey I don't know what to tell

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you there iTunes

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reviewer but I don't know we got lives

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don't let you do too well he may have

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lives but he doesn't know where to spend

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it I mean that's ridiculous

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it sounds like he thinks it's just you

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and I talking for two hours or three

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hours right and he never heard the show

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so he doesn't know there's some shows I

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hardly say a word that's true we let the

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guests talk so I don't know and I think

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well we had Nancy Talbot on the show

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just a couple of three weeks ago we were

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talking about Lucius Farish Nancy is an

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uncle an aunt maybe but not an uncle I

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don't know the other thing of course is

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that some people don't like the fact

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that we have commercials and I

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understand the concern you know people

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don't always like commercials they want

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to fast-forward through them which is

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your decision of course but you have to

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realize here that we're not alone you

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know GCN has what 50 different radio

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shows all of whom use the same frequency

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of commercials we follow in that

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commercial schedule Clear Channel the

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number one radio network in the USA with

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premiere radio network

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it means we have the same commercial

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frequency as Rush Limbaugh as George

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Noory on coast to coast am no difference

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so why is it different for us

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well it seems longer because I think GCN

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has a lot more of the shorter 15-second

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commercials so it seems like there's

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more commercials even though the actual

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amount of time devoted to them as is

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identical yeah I know there's a debate

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there when you do commercials whether

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you get more of an impact with a 15 or

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30-second commercial or a 60-second

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commercial and I don't know what the

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answer is I expect with the economy

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being way it is you take what you get

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you know if you get four 15-second

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commercials you will probably charge

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because this is the way it goes more

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than you get for just one 60-second

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commercial don't let me explain that

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that's how it works you know it makes

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sense and the other of course would be

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that they're interested in the guests or

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don't like the guests but it's curious

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that people will remark about the

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commercials even though as I said the

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frequency of commercials is no different

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if you don't like them like I said you

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fast forward that's the advantage of

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being able to download the show you

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listen to the content that you like and

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we hope you like most of what we do

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because we I think we have done things

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in paranormal radio that most shows are

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afraid to do they're afraid to upset

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anybody they're afraid to express

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criticism of a particular guest or a

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particular point of view I think if you

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don't do that you're not going to learn

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anything about the subject and you're

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not going to be able to figure out

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what's going on at the end of your

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explorers

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well and also we're you know we're

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interested to find out as close to the

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truth as we can and become as up to

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speed in these many areas that we talk

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about as possible I mean I guess some

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listeners prefer Entertainment Tonight

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you know some TV viewers prefer

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Entertainment Tonight to 60 minutes we

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would prefer to lean to the 60 minutes

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that's the tough questions exactly and

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that's why for example a very few people

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out there will not come on the show they

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don't want to have to answer questions

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that they may not expect or maybe

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they're not prepared for although I

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think that when a guest if they have an

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interesting point of view I'm a male

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nurse

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what are they afraid of no I mean

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there's nothing wrong with saying I

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don't know the answer we're not

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expecting any guess even a so-called

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expert to know everything so if a guest

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says you know what I don't know I'm not

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sure about that particular item and I

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would say fine let's go to the next

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subject you can't force a person to know

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I'd rather have someone say they don't

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know then make something up

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yeah or try to kind of skirt around the

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issue and pretend like they know even

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though they don't sounds like that

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legendary question asked on the power

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cast of Jim sparks this contact D where

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he says he's aboard a spaceship what

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seven eight hours and so one of our

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co-hosts said okay did you ever have to

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go to the bathroom I think I asked that

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a David Jacobs - exactly it's a sensible

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question may seem silly at first glance

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but you know what the person could have

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said well you know I don't recall

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obviously I was drugged or I was this I

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don't know maybe they use a catheter -

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yeah I was gonna say that's a good

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excuse okay they took care of it

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medically where they gave me some kind

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of inoculation or something yeah I

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wasn't ready for that no he was and well

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I can always hold myself for a long

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period of time I would have thought

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there would have been better questions

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but he wasn't prepared for it didn't

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think about it didn't expect it and that

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was good radio because it also made us

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more and more suspicious of his claims I

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like the round table with Budd Hopkins

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and David Jacobs and I asked well out of

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the thousand of so cases you've had how

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many people have described a bathroom

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and he couldn't think one I think I

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reminded him one of of the one that I

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recall it was some woman and she said

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when she was shown the bathroom she was

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horrified that it was so filthy maybe

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they don't have those restaurant

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inspectors visit the spaceships you know

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in a lot of cities you have inspectors

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they go out make sure the restaurant is

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clean the bathrooms are clean they don't

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you know have little tiny buggies you

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know on the windowsills things like that

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and you wonder you think an advanced

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alien species well you know cleanliness

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would be dealt with as a matter of

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alien toilet paper that's interesting

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concept I don't want to tell you that

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when I was in summer camp oh hello my

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late brother Wally Steinberg sends me a

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letter written on toilet paper and he

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went on for a long time writing this

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letter just writing on toilet paper you

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have to think how difficult that is what

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kind of pen he's using a fountain pen I

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think you know so it was very soft and

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Tarrant and you know he maybe use

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Charmin I don't know what the best

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toilet papers are and he said at the end

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he claimed to be an alien being visiting

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the earth and he said you would be

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shocked at what earth people do with

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this stuff don't even ask me to go on I

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think that was enough yeah I think that

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was enough gene one of the classic

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letters he wrote unfortunately he's no

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longer with us

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I guess we lost his sense of humor when

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he became the corporate person he was

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well known in the health care industry

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is also an investment banker but

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speaking of brothers you have a brother

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quite quite a few of them actually I've

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got three brothers and a half-brother

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okay is this the full brother this is

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Brendan yeah Brendan and I grew up

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together in Bellevue Washington

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so here's O'Brien also yes okay shared

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quite a number of really cool

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experiences he was with me on the New

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Paltz ball field when we had our had our

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multi object multi witness sighting in

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79 he spent many years down in five

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years actually down in Mexico setting up

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his travel service to the five countries

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that have Mayan ruins and in the time

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they spent down there he befriended some

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of the top archaeologists and scientists

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who are doing the digs at Palenque and

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and other ruins down in the in the Maya

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lands and he and his his partner Johnny

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who's very very up to speed on a lot of

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the Mayan stuff that we're now going to

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be talking about today they're they're

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joining the para cast for the first time

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this will be real fun and we're also

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going to have a return visit by

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everybody's favorite Zuni elder and

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trickster clifford mahooty boy i saw him

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over at the International UFO conference

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he attracts the women Amazo he's a Czech

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he's older in US yeah he's he's a chick

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magnet well he's certainly quite a

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character and we look forward to talking

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with him once again today and hearing

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so despite the claim from some strange

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alleged listener to the para cast that

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our show consisted of just a couple of

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uncle's ranting we actually have three

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guests and you know they might be uncle

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to somebody or on to somebody but not to

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me Chris you assembled this group a very

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special guest the kind of guests on here

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and I guess any paranormal radio show

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would you introduce our guests and get

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the discussion going please I certainly

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will we have of course we're turning to

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the para cast everybody's favorite Zuni

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uncle clifford mahooty who as Jean

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pointed out is has a hard time dealing

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with the fact that he's a chick magnet

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but Jean mentioned in the preamble that

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he was quite impressed with the you just

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seemed to attract women Clifford and I

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know it's tough to sometimes be a person

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like that but you have fun right of

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course

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Clifford was on the show some months

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back we introduced him to the pair cast

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audience and he spoke very eloquently

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about Zuni star knowledge and do any

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traditional information about creation

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myths and we had quite a good response

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to the show when Gina and I were talking

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about future shows some weeks back I

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mentioned the idea of looking at this

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2012 time period and really kind of

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separating the signal from the noise

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that we're experiencing out in the media

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about this very crucial time period and

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I thought what a perfect opportunity to

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introduce the pair of cast my brother

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Brendan O'Brien and his partner Johnny

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Chanel who have been operating the

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finest travel service down to the Maya

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lands going on 13 years now and they

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lived among the Maya and met many of the

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archaeologists and anthropologists that

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are involved in uncovering temple sites

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down in the highlands of Chiapas and

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other places they've really established

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themselves as the premier Travel Service

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down to the Maya lands and along the way

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they've

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masse an incredible amount of experience

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down into my lands and and of course

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they've they've got quite a insider's

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look I think into this whole end of a

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three major cycles in the Mayan

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calendars and we're gonna talk about all

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this today and we're also going to get

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an interesting kind of dovetailed

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insight by clifford about how these

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types of endtime stories and traditions

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dovetail into the north american

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indigenous tradition so this is uh I

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think a really important show and and

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I'm really looking forward to a lively

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conversation poking fun at some of the

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myths surrounding this time great and

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and laying out what what the Maya think

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and to the best of our abilities as

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outsiders to interpret this information

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so I want to welcome all of you to the

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show and this is gonna be fun thank you

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everybody's response is in sync but you

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know I think the big thing here is

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there's a perception gang and anyone to

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take an answer on this there's a

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perception that the end of 2012 in

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December because of what is allegedly in

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the Mayan calendar or one of the Mayan

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calendars

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it means the cycle or the entire world

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may come to an end so who wants to take

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the answer what's the truth well I'll

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give you a little anecdotal answer I

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think for a lot of people the end of the

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world is every day and I'm kind of

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poking fun I have never seen or heard

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from anyone in the you know in the Maya

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communities or experts there's never

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been anyone who stated at the end of the

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bottom is the end of the world and and

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that's that's it really tickles me

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because you turn on the TV or the radio

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and you talk to people who are going to

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go down well we were going to go but you

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know we're gonna stay home on 2012 and

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make sure we have enough food and water

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I mean I'm appalled in one way and the

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other way I'm tickled but I have never

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heard from any legitimate source that

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the Maya wrote that the end of the world

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is

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the end of the bar - ever let's first

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begin by defining our terms let's go

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ahead and give our listeners a thumbnail

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sketch about how the Maya view this

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upcoming time parade

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why don't you define Bakhtin cartoon and

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the soul kin forest so that everybody

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has kind of the same up to speed

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knowledge about what these cycles mean

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and and which cycles were referring to I

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think Johnny can be a little more

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eloquent in her explanation so John you

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know that you take that question well I

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would say that you know there in the

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Maya Long Count calendar which is

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numerical placements each with a dot in

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between we're all seeing that we're

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coming up on 13.000 zero to zero it's

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each of those places in the Long Count

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have their own names like the name for a

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gay is king which is also the nickname

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word for the son and each of those have

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their own attributes some of them have

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19 places that they go through others

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only have 17 and it's very you know it's

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too complicated to explain the whole

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thing it's easier that are done with

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diagrams and stones actually but in any

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case what's important about this one is

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that we're coming up on the end of 50

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100 plus years cycle that is considered

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to be one cycle of a creation cycle but

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there were others before that there were

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at least three that have been spoken up

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before that and they expect another in

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the future so the end of the world into

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the world as we know it not exactly like

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that I'd say more that we are seeing

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changes that are going on we're seeing

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changes in consciousness people are

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changing very rapidly

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human beings are changing and the planet

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is changing rapidly the odd weather

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conditions tornadoes in the wrong place

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at the wrong time

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tsunamis volcanoes earthquakes in odd

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places all those sorts of things

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are a signal of that there's something

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going on in the earth it's very

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significant and anybody that doesn't see

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it is blind and so I would say it's not

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something that's going to have

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but on December 21 2012 it's something

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that's already been happening in his

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happening right now all we're talking

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about and if I might I'd like to just

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quickly as an addendum to that now when

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when we associate the end of the world

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at the end of an epoch the Maya talk

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about the different Indians to their

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world or the different stripes at the

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end of long cycles of time it's

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interesting because the first stripes of

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my head and it was a war and their war

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was with the monkeys and they were

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trying to eke out a place in their

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habitat so they had to struggle with the

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monkeys who really had control and and

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it was harsh and the Maya Ramos wiped

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out and then once they were able to live

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with the monkey and conquer their space

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than they had another catastrophe and it

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was the Jaguar and so we see in the

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first two these these two huge strikes

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to come in the end of periods of time

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they move to in the beginning through

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the natural world with the strike and it

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doesn't seem to go away because then

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water comes in and I'll tell you what

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let's go into more of these mysteries in

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these and yes sometimes as we do our

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next segment we have a special

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collection of guests joining us we have

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Brendan O'Brien

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Gianni Chanel and cliff mahooty with

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exploring all these cycles and events

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that might be happening and we're

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thinking about all the weather changes

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so I had to ask you one question Brendan

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and that is scientists will say this is

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man-made global warming it's causing all

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this stuff to happen how do you respond

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to that I think that's another one I

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think it's you can do that that man as

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as part of an taking participating as

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part of a natural cycle I mean we tend

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to see ourselves human being separate

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from nature we have separated ourselves

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from nature but nature hasn't separate

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itself from us so it's all part of the

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global warming could be what we're doing

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but nonetheless guy is a big planet she

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already is doing her thing and what the

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meijer in tune with is that they're Long

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Count calendar is not a solar based

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calendar what we're used to is a photo

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of a screen boring calendar which is

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based on the Sun comes up every day and

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goes down every day and it's based on

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the solar cycle with the Maya calendar

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it's based on based on earth cycles it's

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based on a relationship with the earth

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the Sun is included in that every day

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there is a king day a Sunday it is

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called a day but it's a much bigger

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cycle than that that has to do with what

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Gaia is doing and if you want to say

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anything about that there's anything

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predictive about the Maya calendar it

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would be that it is tuned into planetary

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and Earth cycles all working together to

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create a certain period of time this is

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going to be distressful and catastrophic

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for many people but we can't really say

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humans made it happen why can't we say

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humans are contributing to it we could

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say that we're contributing

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and I'd not believe me I believe in

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global warming I know what we're doing

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I'm doing aside from that we're just a

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small part of what when the Maya do and

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again when the Maya said that this end

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of this particular Bakhtin whereas water

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was was what came in and and undated the

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people and they had to reestablish

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themselves this kindly said it's an

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earth-shaking

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earth shaking isn't something

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necessarily that we cause I mean

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earthquakes and volcanoes have a mind of

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their own but an earth-shaking event

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that would cause large waves it would

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cause mudslides at super storms large

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storms and we have seen that and we know

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that the earth is shaking and causing

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those problems but I think I find a very

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interesting now that I just met an

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article a couple of days ago that

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scientists are now acknowledging that

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this new practice of fracking in the

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Midwest is actually causing let's

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explain what fracking is it's not a

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phrase that's used on the Battlestar

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Galactica TV show that's racked up dude

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well fracking this is how you you know

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the oil companies are now trying to

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drain out wells that were you know

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previously thought to be exhausted of of

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oil they're pumping water and chemicals

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down they're trying to induce the

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remnants exactly the waste product the

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stuff that they couldn't process and

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they're going through extraordinary ways

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to try to get more oil well in there

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creating stress within fractures so

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where these deposits are found and in

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geologically unstable zones this could

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be a tipping point scenario where enough

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material is introduced under pressure

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deep in the ground to create seismic

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know that they're causing small tremors

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so so humans are becoming more and more

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impactful in the environment Clifford

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when we talk to you when you were on the

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show we were talking briefly about this

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particular time period how does the Zuni

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view of this particular I I guess for

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lack of a better term end to the fourth

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world how does the Zuni tradition

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dovetail with what the Maya have been

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saying you know the Mayans are the avid

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calendar very sophisticated in the Zuni

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world and the way that the original

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timetable if you may was said I was by

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sequential rather sequential and also of

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how mankind treats the planet as in

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order to keep the world in balance one

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of the things that and this of course

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they be a route of the authority for

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coming over there and victory the Pueblo

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Indian functional and with a lot of

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teachings that took a long time for them

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to see were the star people or these we

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call him the we call him there were all

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people because we were their equivalent

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to the God so they were taught we were

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taught from the beginning of how to keep

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the world in balance and there's many

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many factors first of all was to take

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care of the earth and their environment

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how not to over over kill a lot of Li

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the plant plants and because they're the

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ones that brought the plant alight the

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animal eyes and to respect all living

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things regardless of where the babies

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for labor they're two ladies and one in

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the teachings that they were which we

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still go through today they gave us pair

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systems they gave us a rituals to keep

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the world in balance and in the origin

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of the Zuni people as we are in this age

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we came from the Grand Canyon the last

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two three worlds were destroyed by

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different things relative to like earth

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changes and the whole the way the world

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is set up in the whole solar system in

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the universe and in one of our I mean in

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one of our teachings brought us by the

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star people are the gods the world

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flipped on its axis in the past and we

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have this within our own rituals and

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knowledge and the reason that it flipped

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on that side is because the last the

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last world was not imbalanced I not

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following the protocols given by by the

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Creator or the system that was presented

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to them now when they came back out

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again they were also a contact was made

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with the intra millions if you may at

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the star people and also we were given a

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new set of instructions on the star

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knowledge of how to maintain the earth

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and there was a lot of things that we go

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through rituals we went to this day and

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of course within the last in my lifetime

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we've lost a lot of those practices but

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the zuni's and other pueblos believe

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that mankind has a lot to do with an

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imbalance of another earth so that

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actually argues Clifford for some kind

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of man-made global warming that we're

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screwing up the environment by the ends

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of all the things we're doing for profit

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motive and nothing else well they will

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make an argument for that because we I

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think so the simplest way to put it is

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that we do not have the respect of what

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we are supposed to be doing on this

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planet and even within our own Indian

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tribes we have exceeded those those

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boundaries if you look at any nation

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even though we went through a whole

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contrarian process after we were settled

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in what ever was left of the the little

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people that are in power and by not

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clearing out their rituals I'll tell you

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Brendan O'Brien and Johnny Chanel of the

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had gone into a lengthy explanation here

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about the Indians today don't practice

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the old rituals this is what you were

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saying early from that primarily because

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of where we are at with in the world

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world at large especially on this

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continent we do not have the land

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anymore we do not have the places of

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worship anymore to connect with the gods

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or star people and other other deities

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in order to carry out our functions as

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medicine people as priests to it and so

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on now Clifford when you talk about the

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star people beings like that are you

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speaking in the sense of gods in the

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sense of them being gods or maybe et

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came down here and made a presence known

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and decided to set their own rules in

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force well they started out as heat

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teeth and then when they set up the

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system they were referred to as gods in

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our there's only interpretation we call

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them were all people there they're all

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people are aw not cooked so they can go

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back and forth into many many dimensions

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and of course they can and there we call

983
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in the priesthood of the sky of course

984
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there's other deities that take care of

985
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the rest of the earth functions

986
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which are the underground people the

987
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directional people and other deities but

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the important thing is that we had a

989
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contact from the universe somewhere out

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there that brought these things that

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when the when the planet was still young

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or still we called it when the planet

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was wrong and so that's why we call them

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there are all people because of that

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that timing whatever

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okay no does that tell us then Clifford

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that maybe we're moving in the wrong

998
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direction with the things that are doing

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now no you mean as far as the earth yeah

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yes well the other thing too is that all

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their other arrestor that our prophecies

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talk about these things they say that if

1003
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we do not carry out the protocols given

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by their by the people that need us what

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we are today we will certainly certainly

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go in the wrong direction that we have

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already done that we do not have the

1008
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system anymore work where we do the

1009
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prayer systems for the earth we do not

1010
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even have the way of communicating with

1011
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each other on this planet and these were

1012
00:44:20,069 --> 00:44:16,660
all prophesized by we're not so famous

1013
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as the Hokies but ours is soul so it's a

1014
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very very broad spectrum for example

1015
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basically the grandfather's talked about

1016
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overpopulation they talked about other

1017
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races of people coming over here and the

1018
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mixture of languages which would be the

1019
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downfall of our rituals which would

1020
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directly affect the cycles of the earth

1021
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which I'm which that I mean by we no

1022
00:44:54,029 --> 00:44:52,119
longer have crops we no longer have

1023
00:44:57,029 --> 00:44:54,039
water and that's because of

1024
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overpopulation the introduction of

1025
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different animals that were not at

1026
00:45:04,769 --> 00:45:03,099
indigenous to this part of the world

1027
00:45:07,799 --> 00:45:04,779
would part of the race and I think we

1028
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:07,809
can see this with the especially the

1029
00:45:15,150 --> 00:45:12,249
microscopic animals and plants a good

1030
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example is a tumbleweed the tomboy was

1031
00:45:18,390 --> 00:45:15,970
not indigenous

1032
00:45:21,750 --> 00:45:18,400
for this area and so when when it first

1033
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came about way back in the early 1900s

1034
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the old-timer said that I guess this is

1035
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what they were talking about that they

1036
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would create a lot of droughts and

1037
00:45:32,790 --> 00:45:30,790
unfortunately that's what happened but

1038
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there are so many many things that you

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can take off on any path and our people

1040
00:45:41,849 --> 00:45:39,160
here in Zuni have been worst our very

1041
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worst on those type of traditions and

1042
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knowledge and but it's it's been a long

1043
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time since anybody really asked these

1044
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questions

1045
00:45:54,030 --> 00:45:51,970
unfortunately we're losing a lot of

1046
00:45:57,300 --> 00:45:54,040
those people that had this knowledge

1047
00:45:59,160 --> 00:45:57,310
because it's not passed on it's not sat

1048
00:46:02,280 --> 00:45:59,170
down in books in written form is it all

1049
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:02,290
oral tradition then oral tradition that

1050
00:46:06,810 --> 00:46:04,770
and I've read a lot of books of the

1051
00:46:09,300 --> 00:46:06,820
ethnologists and anthropologists

1052
00:46:13,770 --> 00:46:09,310
archaeologists that came here in 1800

1053
00:46:16,770 --> 00:46:13,780
but they were more concerned about the

1054
00:46:20,010 --> 00:46:16,780
daily practices of what they can see

1055
00:46:23,070 --> 00:46:20,020
rather than what the philosophy and the

1056
00:46:25,079 --> 00:46:23,080
religious order system of these they

1057
00:46:26,790 --> 00:46:25,089
touched on it but they didn't go into it

1058
00:46:28,710 --> 00:46:26,800
deep enough because they did not have

1059
00:46:32,579 --> 00:46:28,720
the time they didn't have the techniques

1060
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:32,589
so but our zoning people you will have

1061
00:46:38,310 --> 00:46:35,530
these knowledge but at the same time we

1062
00:46:40,410 --> 00:46:38,320
say what why even if we have this

1063
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:40,420
knowledge what good is it because we no

1064
00:46:45,780 --> 00:46:43,210
longer have the land we no longer have

1065
00:46:49,410 --> 00:46:45,790
their ritual sites to carry out these

1066
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:49,420
practices to keep those earth in check

1067
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:52,930
in balance and also the weather like for

1068
00:46:59,490 --> 00:46:56,050
example we're having severe wind storms

1069
00:47:02,550 --> 00:46:59,500
in the old days there the priesthood and

1070
00:47:05,130 --> 00:47:02,560
me the warrior society would go and

1071
00:47:06,750 --> 00:47:05,140
actually talk to the weather and we

1072
00:47:09,410 --> 00:47:06,760
would never have this type of weather

1073
00:47:13,349 --> 00:47:09,420
that like we're having but we were also

1074
00:47:15,839 --> 00:47:13,359
told that in the future or the reason

1075
00:47:18,060 --> 00:47:15,849
why the Indians and Indians were said in

1076
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:18,070
this particular location after the

1077
00:47:22,890 --> 00:47:20,650
migrations is because that they were

1078
00:47:25,260 --> 00:47:22,900
will be we will not be bothered with

1079
00:47:29,609 --> 00:47:25,270
earthquakes will not be bothered with

1080
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floods hurricanes high wind storms LA

1081
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or your options and all that so they

1082
00:47:34,650 --> 00:47:33,549
chose this place there's actually

1083
00:47:36,660 --> 00:47:34,660
nothing out here

1084
00:47:39,450 --> 00:47:36,670
there's no mineral there's not even

1085
00:47:42,690 --> 00:47:39,460
gravel and they always used to ask a

1086
00:47:44,730 --> 00:47:42,700
question why are we here and the answer

1087
00:47:47,249 --> 00:47:44,740
was because the Creator put it so we're

1088
00:47:50,089 --> 00:47:47,259
here to be protected for the next one

1089
00:47:53,489 --> 00:47:50,099
that's going to come when the next

1090
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:53,499
upheavals and that imbalance of the

1091
00:47:59,460 --> 00:47:56,490
earth and they also predicted or

1092
00:48:03,319 --> 00:47:59,470
prophesized that the there'll also be

1093
00:48:05,849 --> 00:48:03,329
another pole shift that's going to be

1094
00:48:09,150 --> 00:48:05,859
coming in the next one and you'll flip

1095
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:09,160
over its axis again so that sounds like

1096
00:48:13,710 --> 00:48:11,410
the earth shaking so it's it's very

1097
00:48:16,769 --> 00:48:13,720
similar to the Maya then the the if they

1098
00:48:20,849 --> 00:48:16,779
the earth know it's funny listen

1099
00:48:23,549 --> 00:48:20,859
listening just now the Maya have you

1100
00:48:27,390 --> 00:48:23,559
know the same like the same kind of

1101
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:27,400
traditions were they have rituals to

1102
00:48:31,620 --> 00:48:29,650
keep nature and balance to keep the

1103
00:48:33,690 --> 00:48:31,630
weather and balance and one of the

1104
00:48:36,479 --> 00:48:33,700
things that starting concerning the Maya

1105
00:48:39,180 --> 00:48:36,489
elders and the shaman and the day

1106
00:48:41,489 --> 00:48:39,190
keepers and the people who carried the

1107
00:48:45,180 --> 00:48:41,499
stories and passed them down was that

1108
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:45,190
the world was changing so rapidly the

1109
00:48:51,019 --> 00:48:47,650
Maya in the sixth all the way up to the

1110
00:48:54,180 --> 00:48:51,029
60s could who would know within a day

1111
00:48:56,039 --> 00:48:54,190
when to plant their corn and the water

1112
00:48:59,430 --> 00:48:56,049
would come and it was something they

1113
00:49:03,779 --> 00:48:59,440
knew how to do but in the last year's

1114
00:49:06,450 --> 00:49:03,789
from the seventies on they're unable to

1115
00:49:10,109 --> 00:49:06,460
know that particular day because it's

1116
00:49:13,430 --> 00:49:10,119
changing so fast and in the highlands up

1117
00:49:16,019 --> 00:49:13,440
in in Chiapas in San Cristobal there's

1118
00:49:18,989 --> 00:49:16,029
many different Maya peoples who come

1119
00:49:21,900 --> 00:49:18,999
together and reenact creation and

1120
00:49:24,569 --> 00:49:21,910
reenact their story and the people who

1121
00:49:27,779 --> 00:49:24,579
the elders who put who organized that

1122
00:49:30,269 --> 00:49:27,789
celebration they also are supposed to

1123
00:49:32,999 --> 00:49:30,279
control the weather so that the festival

1124
00:49:36,359 --> 00:49:33,009
can go on and if any bad weather comes

1125
00:49:39,329 --> 00:49:36,369
they put them they take the elders who

1126
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:39,339
organized the event and they put them

1127
00:49:43,559 --> 00:49:41,170
and this happens over here they put them

1128
00:49:46,289 --> 00:49:43,569
in jail until they make the way

1129
00:49:48,809 --> 00:49:46,299
do what it's supposed to do and so the

1130
00:49:50,759 --> 00:49:48,819
aliens that sit in the jail yes and they

1131
00:49:52,859 --> 00:49:50,769
pray and they do the praying and they

1132
00:49:55,799 --> 00:49:52,869
change the weather so they can start the

1133
00:49:57,630 --> 00:49:55,809
festival again and in the recent years

1134
00:49:59,729 --> 00:49:57,640
they've been having a harder time of

1135
00:50:01,589 --> 00:49:59,739
making sure that the weather is

1136
00:50:04,229 --> 00:50:01,599
cooperating with a ritual because they

1137
00:50:06,449 --> 00:50:04,239
work hand in hand so I thought a lot of

1138
00:50:08,339 --> 00:50:06,459
similarities this is a question will

1139
00:50:11,309 --> 00:50:08,349
probably have to be responded to on the

1140
00:50:13,140 --> 00:50:11,319
other side after the next break and that

1141
00:50:15,779 --> 00:50:13,150
is Brendon and maybe Johnny you could

1142
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:15,789
answer this why is there a perception on

1143
00:50:19,709 --> 00:50:17,410
the part of so many people at the Mayan

1144
00:50:29,729 --> 00:50:19,719
well they're they're extinct which

1145
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:29,739
obviously you're not I heard that on the

1146
00:50:35,069 --> 00:50:32,170
History Channel I was dumbfounded no no

1147
00:50:38,039 --> 00:50:35,079
we actually when Johnny and I first went

1148
00:50:41,699 --> 00:50:38,049
down to the Yucatan for a much-needed

1149
00:50:43,529 --> 00:50:41,709
break and relaxation we met a lot of the

1150
00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:43,539
Mayan I worked with him and Johnny work

1151
00:50:48,509 --> 00:50:45,609
literally and we lived among them and

1152
00:50:50,130 --> 00:50:48,519
there's such wonderful people but then

1153
00:50:52,259 --> 00:50:50,140
these tourists would be coming through

1154
00:50:54,150 --> 00:50:52,269
and they would be going out of those

1155
00:50:55,529 --> 00:50:54,160
Maya was something man too bad they

1156
00:50:56,489 --> 00:50:55,539
aren't around so we could ask them

1157
00:50:57,809 --> 00:50:56,499
what's going on

1158
00:50:59,579 --> 00:50:57,819
I'll tell you what we have to ask some

1159
00:51:01,289 --> 00:50:59,589
other people what's going on and then

1160
00:51:03,599 --> 00:51:01,299
we'll get back to figuring this all out

1161
00:51:06,269 --> 00:51:03,609
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1170
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1171
00:51:29,910 --> 00:51:28,059
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1172
00:51:32,969 --> 00:51:29,920
other O'Brien by the way and Johnny

1173
00:51:38,260 --> 00:51:32,979
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1189
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1190
00:52:21,170 --> 00:52:19,859
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1191
00:52:23,210 --> 00:52:21,180
Anderson have you ever wondered why

1192
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1193
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1194
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1199
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1200
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welcome back to the para cast the gold

1201
00:53:11,950 --> 00:53:03,220
standard of paranormal radio and now

1202
00:53:14,740 --> 00:53:11,960
here's Jane Steinberg okay n times Mayan

1203
00:53:17,020 --> 00:53:14,750
mysteries visits from the star people so

1204
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:17,030
much to put together and correcting the

1205
00:53:21,940 --> 00:53:18,770
perception that the Mayans are

1206
00:53:24,670 --> 00:53:21,950
yesterday's news yeah we have Brendan

1207
00:53:26,950 --> 00:53:24,680
O'Brien we have Johnny Chanel we have

1208
00:53:28,630 --> 00:53:26,960
Cliff mahooty Johnny you're gonna say

1209
00:53:31,330 --> 00:53:28,640
something before and I had to interrupt

1210
00:53:35,130 --> 00:53:31,340
you but let's do it okay that

1211
00:53:37,780 --> 00:53:35,140
misperception is based on a

1212
00:53:39,700 --> 00:53:37,790
misunderstanding that happened when the

1213
00:53:43,930 --> 00:53:39,710
first tourists started going to the

1214
00:53:46,030 --> 00:53:43,940
Mayan ruins and it created a mystique in

1215
00:53:47,860 --> 00:53:46,040
that there were some people that were

1216
00:53:51,190 --> 00:53:47,870
here but now they're not hearing more

1217
00:53:52,330 --> 00:53:51,200
very much like the Anasazi and that they

1218
00:53:55,270 --> 00:53:52,340
were here and now they're not here

1219
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:55,280
anymore so the tourists all got they

1220
00:53:58,440 --> 00:53:56,690
looked at the old pyramids and

1221
00:54:01,030 --> 00:53:58,450
everything all the old structures

1222
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:01,040
everything they said oh well you know it

1223
00:54:03,940 --> 00:54:02,330
must have made a magnificent

1224
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:03,950
civilization it's too bad that they're

1225
00:54:09,490 --> 00:54:06,890
gone well everybody just kind of let

1226
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:09,500
them hold that thought they let that

1227
00:54:14,710 --> 00:54:11,930
therefore the mystique factor and they

1228
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:14,720
still have the thing with her you can go

1229
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:16,970
on a tour bus to go to Chichen Itza and

1230
00:54:22,780 --> 00:54:19,850
the guide on the tour will speak as if

1231
00:54:26,140 --> 00:54:22,790
the Maya were are gone without ever

1232
00:54:29,260 --> 00:54:26,150
telling the people that I for one in

1233
00:54:30,970 --> 00:54:29,270
Maya the tour guide or all the people

1234
00:54:32,950 --> 00:54:30,980
that are doing the landscaping at your

1235
00:54:34,990 --> 00:54:32,960
hotel and cleaning your room and serving

1236
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:35,000
you drinks all those people are Maya and

1237
00:54:41,010 --> 00:54:38,690
that there are 4 million Maya in the

1238
00:54:44,170 --> 00:54:41,020
Maya countries of Guatemala Belize a

1239
00:54:45,940 --> 00:54:44,180
Honduras and Mexico there's four million

1240
00:54:49,150 --> 00:54:45,950
Maya they're the largest indigenous

1241
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:49,160
group of people anywhere on the world so

1242
00:54:54,010 --> 00:54:51,290
they didn't go anywhere yeah also I'd

1243
00:54:58,030 --> 00:54:54,020
like to just add to that no Maya you

1244
00:55:00,670 --> 00:54:58,040
know to get to know them it is it's a

1245
00:55:04,570 --> 00:55:00,680
wonderful process but it isn't something

1246
00:55:07,690 --> 00:55:04,580
that happens easily or right away and I

1247
00:55:10,150 --> 00:55:07,700
can see people going down and going

1248
00:55:13,540 --> 00:55:10,160
you know what is this I mean what does

1249
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:13,550
it mean and the Maya who could speak

1250
00:55:19,089 --> 00:55:16,450
English would be less apt to tell them

1251
00:55:22,150 --> 00:55:19,099
what it means to them or what it means

1252
00:55:24,370 --> 00:55:22,160
to their community because of just the

1253
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:24,380
nature of their relationship with the

1254
00:55:29,650 --> 00:55:26,810
tourism or with the people coming down

1255
00:55:32,410 --> 00:55:29,660
looking for quick answers and and it's

1256
00:55:35,230 --> 00:55:32,420
it's a process of living there and

1257
00:55:38,620 --> 00:55:35,240
slowly letting the environment peel away

1258
00:55:41,020 --> 00:55:38,630
at you and letting go of layers and the

1259
00:55:43,750 --> 00:55:41,030
community can see this process going on

1260
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:43,760
in you for me it took a long time I had

1261
00:55:48,940 --> 00:55:46,490
I had a lot of skins that needed to come

1262
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:48,950
off and let the environment soak in and

1263
00:55:53,950 --> 00:55:52,130
and work on me and they and they tended

1264
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:53,960
to know and I was ready for

1265
00:55:59,140 --> 00:55:57,530
communication about certain things it's

1266
00:56:01,270 --> 00:55:59,150
not like you could just go and ask a

1267
00:56:03,579 --> 00:56:01,280
question and get an answer they're

1268
00:56:05,589 --> 00:56:03,589
pretty close mouths you know there's

1269
00:56:09,460 --> 00:56:05,599
only three books published you know

1270
00:56:11,530 --> 00:56:09,470
ancient Maya works but I think there's a

1271
00:56:14,050 --> 00:56:11,540
consensus among the people the

1272
00:56:15,430 --> 00:56:14,060
anthropologist and and a lot of the

1273
00:56:17,380 --> 00:56:15,440
archaeologists that there are other

1274
00:56:18,579 --> 00:56:17,390
books but we're not able to see them

1275
00:56:21,250 --> 00:56:18,589
they're not going to show them to us

1276
00:56:23,589 --> 00:56:21,260
okay and another part of that too is

1277
00:56:25,809 --> 00:56:23,599
that you have to remember that the

1278
00:56:28,839 --> 00:56:25,819
Spanish colonial period was so

1279
00:56:33,099 --> 00:56:28,849
incredibly harsh on the Maya people that

1280
00:56:34,690 --> 00:56:33,109
they became closed mouths where they

1281
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:34,700
didn't share any information with

1282
00:56:41,170 --> 00:56:38,450
outsiders because they remembered when

1283
00:56:43,030 --> 00:56:41,180
they were burned at the stake for their

1284
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:43,040
beliefs and where all their sacred books

1285
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:45,770
were burned and they remember that goes

1286
00:56:52,150 --> 00:56:48,050
back from stories and their family that

1287
00:56:54,220 --> 00:56:52,160
go way back so they know that they're

1288
00:56:56,620 --> 00:56:54,230
connected to it but they haven't always

1289
00:56:59,020 --> 00:56:56,630
been to sum that up that real

1290
00:57:01,180 --> 00:56:59,030
forthcoming with that they'd rather be

1291
00:57:03,819 --> 00:57:01,190
thought of venez being extinct because

1292
00:57:06,339 --> 00:57:03,829
people won't bother them that's part of

1293
00:57:08,710 --> 00:57:06,349
it sure that's probably part of it well

1294
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:08,720
I'm also a bank I have to bring up to a

1295
00:57:13,300 --> 00:57:11,210
language barrier for many of for the

1296
00:57:15,910 --> 00:57:13,310
majority the vast majority of the Maya

1297
00:57:18,849 --> 00:57:15,920
people in the Yucatan they their first

1298
00:57:19,930 --> 00:57:18,859
language is a Maya dialect it was not

1299
00:57:23,319 --> 00:57:19,940
Spanish

1300
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:23,329
so for many of them they for years and

1301
00:57:26,230 --> 00:57:24,410
years and years had no way to

1302
00:57:28,569 --> 00:57:26,240
communicate with the tourists the

1303
00:57:31,270 --> 00:57:28,579
tourists couldn't speak Maya that the

1304
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:31,280
tour guides only spoke Spanish they

1305
00:57:34,510 --> 00:57:32,690
didn't really have a way to even have a

1306
00:57:35,770 --> 00:57:34,520
voice or anything and what was going on

1307
00:57:37,750 --> 00:57:35,780
because no one knew what they were

1308
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:37,760
saying and the tour guides were all

1309
00:57:43,990 --> 00:57:40,730
Spanish and so they couldn't talk to the

1310
00:57:47,020 --> 00:57:44,000
Maya so they would just blurb the same

1311
00:57:48,819 --> 00:57:47,030
old stuff for many years the the

1312
00:57:51,339 --> 00:57:48,829
government body that does the licensing

1313
00:57:53,049 --> 00:57:51,349
on the tour guides in the Yucatan they

1314
00:57:55,539 --> 00:57:53,059
wouldn't even let my guys be guides

1315
00:57:57,370 --> 00:57:55,549
because they said their Spanish wasn't

1316
00:58:00,370 --> 00:57:57,380
good enough and you know it was very

1317
00:58:03,220 --> 00:58:00,380
much so that in a way that has kind of

1318
00:58:05,319 --> 00:58:03,230
protected him but I would like to talk

1319
00:58:08,770 --> 00:58:05,329
about something about Clifford's point

1320
00:58:10,630 --> 00:58:08,780
that we've lost our ability we've been

1321
00:58:13,059 --> 00:58:10,640
forgotten the ways we're losing the ways

1322
00:58:15,789 --> 00:58:13,069
on how we need to treat the fluence with

1323
00:58:18,039 --> 00:58:15,799
respect that falls in line completely

1324
00:58:20,349 --> 00:58:18,049
with the stories of the previous

1325
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:20,359
creations and that every one of the

1326
00:58:25,089 --> 00:58:22,730
creations when they happen the original

1327
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:25,099
people were given the information on

1328
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:27,890
what they needed to do to live in

1329
00:58:32,859 --> 00:58:30,650
harmony with the earth but as it does as

1330
00:58:36,730 --> 00:58:32,869
people as it goes down through

1331
00:58:39,130 --> 00:58:36,740
generations it gets lost and diluted and

1332
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:39,140
over the course of time by the end of

1333
00:58:43,750 --> 00:58:41,930
the cycle people have completely forgot

1334
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:43,760
what they're doing they've gone totally

1335
00:58:47,620 --> 00:58:45,770
crazy they're doing an ant dance and

1336
00:58:51,250 --> 00:58:47,630
this is a cycle that keeps repeating

1337
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:51,260
itself according to the Maya elders they

1338
00:58:54,609 --> 00:58:53,210
if you were to talk go to Guatemala and

1339
00:58:56,730 --> 00:58:54,619
say to them are you worried that on

1340
00:59:01,599 --> 00:58:56,740
December 21 the whole world's gonna end

1341
00:59:04,329 --> 00:59:01,609
they would say to you look if people if

1342
00:59:08,470 --> 00:59:04,339
human beings don't start acting like

1343
00:59:11,349 --> 00:59:08,480
human beings and really being in that

1344
00:59:13,599 --> 00:59:11,359
respect being as a human that we are

1345
00:59:16,690 --> 00:59:13,609
animals and that means that we are part

1346
00:59:18,250 --> 00:59:16,700
of the earth but that because we're

1347
00:59:20,140 --> 00:59:18,260
human we have a different set of

1348
00:59:23,170 --> 00:59:20,150
consciousness that we have to be

1349
00:59:25,410 --> 00:59:23,180
responsible for and that with every one

1350
00:59:29,260 --> 00:59:25,420
of these destruction cycles the

1351
00:59:30,940 --> 00:59:29,270
survivors of the last cycle the ones

1352
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:30,950
that can ride the wave into the next

1353
00:59:35,890 --> 00:59:33,530
creation are the people who

1354
00:59:38,860 --> 00:59:35,900
have come to terms with how to walk in

1355
00:59:41,170 --> 00:59:38,870
alignment and respect with the earth and

1356
00:59:43,870 --> 00:59:41,180
that the other people they don't have a

1357
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:43,880
very good chance of making it I know

1358
00:59:47,650 --> 00:59:45,530
that sounds really doomsday and

1359
00:59:49,630 --> 00:59:47,660
everything but if you ask them they're

1360
00:59:50,980 --> 00:59:49,640
going to tell you that truth and it's

1361
00:59:53,770 --> 00:59:50,990
not going to be it's going to not going

1362
00:59:55,420 --> 00:59:53,780
to happen on December 21 it's going to

1363
00:59:57,790 --> 00:59:55,430
happen over the course of years and

1364
00:59:59,740 --> 00:59:57,800
we're gonna see who makes it true and

1365
01:00:01,840 --> 00:59:59,750
who doesn't let me ask you a question

1366
01:00:05,260 --> 01:00:01,850
here is there a legend among these

1367
01:00:12,270 --> 01:00:05,270
people about visitors from elsewhere

1368
01:00:17,170 --> 01:00:15,250
Playa del Carmen was a small town and

1369
01:00:19,930 --> 01:00:17,180
Johnny first visited there and that's in

1370
01:00:21,340 --> 01:00:19,940
the Yucatan and when she first went

1371
01:00:24,220 --> 01:00:21,350
there was very small there was one

1372
01:00:26,620 --> 01:00:24,230
little thatched hotel very quiet now of

1373
01:00:30,340 --> 01:00:26,630
course it is just a huge booming

1374
01:00:32,740 --> 01:00:30,350
metropolis much to the chagrin of a lot

1375
01:00:36,430 --> 01:00:32,750
of people but anyway the symbol that

1376
01:00:42,180 --> 01:00:36,440
they put down in the Yucatan as you go

1377
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:42,190
into this this relatively new city is a

1378
01:00:49,450 --> 01:00:45,850
UFO and this is a big brass

1379
01:00:51,910 --> 01:00:49,460
commemorative thing for poor the town in

1380
01:00:54,370 --> 01:00:51,920
the area and it was put there by the

1381
01:00:58,170 --> 01:00:54,380
government not necessarily by the Playa

1382
01:01:01,330 --> 01:00:58,180
del Carmen proper and it's a huge brass

1383
01:01:04,930 --> 01:01:01,340
medallion set in brick as you come in

1384
01:01:07,990 --> 01:01:04,940
it's about six feet tall and it's a UFO

1385
01:01:10,990 --> 01:01:08,000
over cheats and needs a-- sending a beam

1386
01:01:13,990 --> 01:01:11,000
down and it's in bronze it's this huge

1387
01:01:16,510 --> 01:01:14,000
thing and anyone that I asked over the

1388
01:01:18,730 --> 01:01:16,520
years that I went there would go totally

1389
01:01:22,300 --> 01:01:18,740
silent when I asked what the meaning of

1390
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:22,310
that is they just they will not talk

1391
01:01:29,980 --> 01:01:28,250
about it so you know they do have they

1392
01:01:32,470 --> 01:01:29,990
do definitely have connections but

1393
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:32,480
they're so tight-lipped about it there's

1394
01:01:39,460 --> 01:01:35,690
some things that we saw and she officer

1395
01:01:41,980 --> 01:01:39,470
heard about like you know cow parts

1396
01:01:44,620 --> 01:01:41,990
dried and pound on pyramids that hadn't

1397
01:01:46,660 --> 01:01:44,630
been taken back from the jungle yet when

1398
01:01:49,450 --> 01:01:46,670
they went in to measure and X

1399
01:01:52,210 --> 01:01:49,460
they do things they found all these cow

1400
01:01:55,180 --> 01:01:52,220
parts dried up and as if they had been

1401
01:01:57,610 --> 01:01:55,190
dropped on the top of these pyramids and

1402
01:01:59,680 --> 01:01:57,620
when I asked about it and these would be

1403
01:02:02,050 --> 01:01:59,690
the troll Maya up in the highlands in

1404
01:02:04,150 --> 01:02:02,060
shock again very closed mouth and quiet

1405
01:02:08,170 --> 01:02:04,160
about it and I I don't know what to make

1406
01:02:10,770 --> 01:02:08,180
of it but they do have stories well okay

1407
01:02:14,830 --> 01:02:10,780
did I interject something here mm-hmm

1408
01:02:18,730 --> 01:02:14,840
well you if you look at the history of

1409
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:18,740
what the conquering people be to these

1410
01:02:25,030 --> 01:02:22,490
Indian tribes we in our portion of the

1411
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:25,040
world oh by the way they the Mayan and

1412
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:27,650
they those people down in South America

1413
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:30,530
or we are we are all related and you

1414
01:02:33,610 --> 01:02:31,850
know what I want to ask you more about

1415
01:02:36,010 --> 01:02:33,620
that Clifford as you finish your

1416
01:02:37,900 --> 01:02:36,020
comments in our next segment you with

1417
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:37,910
Gene and Chris because you're in the

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door of a dark house that looks like no

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home watching television with fake TV

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television so from outside it looks like

1501
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someone is home watching TV fake TV

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plugs in just like a lamp on a timer but

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is far more convincing to burglars fake

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1527
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legends what's going on we're going to

1528
01:07:30,250 --> 01:07:28,130
have a bumpy ride into the future is

1529
01:07:33,220 --> 01:07:30,260
there a future with gene and Chris we're

1530
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:33,230
talking to Brendan O'Brien Gianni Chanel

1531
01:07:37,630 --> 01:07:35,810
and clifford mahooty Clifford you were

1532
01:07:40,750 --> 01:07:37,640
about to start a statement in response

1533
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:40,760
to what Brendon and Johnny were talking

1534
01:07:45,190 --> 01:07:42,050
about you want to continue that lease

1535
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:45,200
one of one of the things that is quite

1536
01:07:50,530 --> 01:07:48,170
prevalent among the indigenous tribes is

1537
01:07:52,270 --> 01:07:50,540
that first of all they had that

1538
01:07:54,190 --> 01:07:52,280
knowledge was open because we didn't

1539
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:54,200
have any secret code we didn't you know

1540
01:07:58,480 --> 01:07:56,330
everything was open when the conquering

1541
01:08:01,780 --> 01:07:58,490
nations came over there they destroyed

1542
01:08:05,230 --> 01:08:01,790
everything so after a while I said well

1543
01:08:08,050 --> 01:08:05,240
we can we can not afford to show them or

1544
01:08:10,510 --> 01:08:08,060
tell them what we have and if this is

1545
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:10,520
very true here in my my part of the

1546
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:13,010
world too we showed them everything we

1547
01:08:18,039 --> 01:08:15,050
gave in America because we did not have

1548
01:08:20,849 --> 01:08:18,049
to war like conquering type mentality or

1549
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:20,859
my ancestors so but they took those away

1550
01:08:26,620 --> 01:08:23,810
and then the next group will come in

1551
01:08:29,440 --> 01:08:26,630
there and so of course in the meantime

1552
01:08:32,410 --> 01:08:29,450
their populations are declining and

1553
01:08:35,019 --> 01:08:32,420
there are certain people within those

1554
01:08:37,059 --> 01:08:35,029
tribes or those groups that took the

1555
01:08:39,309 --> 01:08:37,069
knowledge infected and they had to put

1556
01:08:41,829 --> 01:08:39,319
them in secrecy because of what they did

1557
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:41,839
with the majority of the record even in

1558
01:08:48,970 --> 01:08:44,690
my tribe here I would say that up to

1559
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:48,980
about 1930s they took about half at

1560
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:51,770
least half or maybe more of what our

1561
01:08:57,789 --> 01:08:55,210
ritual sites maintained for our

1562
01:08:59,410 --> 01:08:57,799
practices and then of course at that

1563
01:09:01,329 --> 01:08:59,420
time then the anthropologists

1564
01:09:03,370 --> 01:09:01,339
archaeology's the tourists

1565
01:09:05,829 --> 01:09:03,380
there came into the play and it became

1566
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:05,839
commercialized so they stole a lot of

1567
01:09:09,820 --> 01:09:07,489
his stuff what they don't realize is

1568
01:09:11,979 --> 01:09:09,830
that a lot of stuff that they stole is

1569
01:09:14,229 --> 01:09:11,989
the one there were the connectors are

1570
01:09:16,599 --> 01:09:14,239
there are they working parts of whatever

1571
01:09:19,089 --> 01:09:16,609
machinery they had - whether he was a

1572
01:09:22,329 --> 01:09:19,099
pyramid whether it was a spring with he

1573
01:09:24,879 --> 01:09:22,339
was a Stargate when you take off a vital

1574
01:09:28,089 --> 01:09:24,889
part of any machinery and in these were

1575
01:09:29,950 --> 01:09:28,099
like machines but god-given machinery so

1576
01:09:32,260 --> 01:09:29,960
some of us that are left

1577
01:09:34,959 --> 01:09:32,270
we got remnants of it and we keep that

1578
01:09:38,050 --> 01:09:34,969
we're dear to our people but at the same

1579
01:09:39,939 --> 01:09:38,060
time we also have those people that do

1580
01:09:42,430 --> 01:09:39,949
not have to respect because they were

1581
01:09:44,769 --> 01:09:42,440
bought out I mean it's easy to go and

1582
01:09:46,749 --> 01:09:44,779
get an artifact and solid for your own

1583
01:09:48,609 --> 01:09:46,759
personal gain so that's a lot of things

1584
01:09:49,059 --> 01:09:48,619
that are going back and forth with these

1585
01:09:50,979 --> 01:09:49,069
things

1586
01:09:53,379 --> 01:09:50,989
and those people that are up in the

1587
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:53,389
mountains and people like myself over

1588
01:09:59,290 --> 01:09:56,570
here I don't even talk to my community

1589
01:10:01,660 --> 01:09:59,300
those people that are in charge of those

1590
01:10:04,689 --> 01:10:01,670
things because of what they have done in

1591
01:10:07,629 --> 01:10:04,699
the past so it works on both sides the

1592
01:10:10,629 --> 01:10:07,639
indigenous tribes themselves went out

1593
01:10:12,939 --> 01:10:10,639
there and so those out when when you're

1594
01:10:15,970 --> 01:10:12,949
poor and when you're hungry you can sell

1595
01:10:17,500 --> 01:10:15,980
anything just to maintain their life but

1596
01:10:20,649 --> 01:10:17,510
say the same thing happened over here

1597
01:10:24,370 --> 01:10:20,659
but at the same time there's some people

1598
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:24,380
that are emerging again that are it's

1599
01:10:28,330 --> 01:10:26,810
like it's like a you've got to keep the

1600
01:10:30,070 --> 01:10:28,340
fire going type thing

1601
01:10:32,859 --> 01:10:30,080
so there's a lot of people that are

1602
01:10:35,620 --> 01:10:32,869
coming back on the in the tribes that

1603
01:10:37,030 --> 01:10:35,630
have got the knowledge or will be

1604
01:10:39,879 --> 01:10:37,040
learning their knowledge and it's a

1605
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:39,889
god-given knowledge and in our ways it

1606
01:10:44,859 --> 01:10:42,650
is not supposed to go always not

1607
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:44,869
supposed to fail you got to look at it

1608
01:10:51,399 --> 01:10:48,770
in a real real way of thinking so but

1609
01:10:53,109 --> 01:10:51,409
that's basically what it is Chris

1610
01:10:55,780 --> 01:10:53,119
there's a whole bunch of questions in

1611
01:10:58,089 --> 01:10:55,790
our forum and maybe this helps flesh out

1612
01:10:59,800 --> 01:10:58,099
some of the concerns that our listeners

1613
01:11:01,689 --> 01:10:59,810
have about these subjects you want to

1614
01:11:03,550 --> 01:11:01,699
dig into a couple of those questions to

1615
01:11:05,290 --> 01:11:03,560
see where we take them I think we've

1616
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:05,300
addressed several of them already but

1617
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:07,250
sand and fire who's one of our longtime

1618
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:08,210
posters

1619
01:11:11,890 --> 01:11:10,730
I think his question sums up a lot of

1620
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:11,900
what we've been talking about in the

1621
01:11:16,870 --> 01:11:13,489
misperception out there

1622
01:11:19,540 --> 01:11:16,880
in in the world about the whole time

1623
01:11:21,100 --> 01:11:19,550
period that we're in in Maya and his

1624
01:11:22,959 --> 01:11:21,110
question is a lot of people are touting

1625
01:11:24,430 --> 01:11:22,969
the Mayans as being an extinct people

1626
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:24,440
however I've seen several shows and

1627
01:11:28,029 --> 01:11:26,570
documentaries now including the para

1628
01:11:30,279 --> 01:11:28,039
cast in which people claiming to be

1629
01:11:31,750 --> 01:11:30,289
modern-day Maya are speaking out and

1630
01:11:34,509 --> 01:11:31,760
some are even addressing the meaning

1631
01:11:36,729 --> 01:11:34,519
around 2012 trying to set the new ages

1632
01:11:38,319 --> 01:11:36,739
and the preppers straight how much of

1633
01:11:40,180 --> 01:11:38,329
the Mayan culture is still around and

1634
01:11:41,890 --> 01:11:40,190
for that matter how many meso Americans

1635
01:11:44,109 --> 01:11:41,900
can trace their heritage and bloodline

1636
01:11:46,330 --> 01:11:44,119
back to actual Maya who may have lived

1637
01:11:50,169 --> 01:11:46,340
five to ten thousand years ago now we

1638
01:11:52,839 --> 01:11:50,179
can address some of that quite a few

1639
01:11:54,669 --> 01:11:52,849
people there are a million mile living

1640
01:11:57,459 --> 01:11:54,679
in the United States right now it's

1641
01:11:59,439 --> 01:11:57,469
monumental really there's probably a in

1642
01:12:01,000 --> 01:11:59,449
in that New Mexico of course there's all

1643
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:01,010
bunch of people that are partly at in

1644
01:12:07,839 --> 01:12:04,489
part Spanish but the the whole that

1645
01:12:12,669 --> 01:12:07,849
whole misperception the Maya not being

1646
01:12:15,399 --> 01:12:12,679
present is really ashamed because they

1647
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:15,409
the Maya culture is alive and vibrant

1648
01:12:23,290 --> 01:12:19,730
and you can anywhere in the Maya world

1649
01:12:24,790 --> 01:12:23,300
there are medicine people that you know

1650
01:12:27,549 --> 01:12:24,800
they whether they call they're called

1651
01:12:31,330 --> 01:12:27,559
shamans or james's or whatever there are

1652
01:12:34,180 --> 01:12:31,340
real ancestrally come from hundreds of

1653
01:12:35,739 --> 01:12:34,190
years of medicine people that they were

1654
01:12:38,890 --> 01:12:35,749
given and they're given it legitimately

1655
01:12:43,209 --> 01:12:38,900
that are still practicing the ancient

1656
01:12:46,330 --> 01:12:43,219
ways with a little bit of Catholic stuff

1657
01:12:48,220 --> 01:12:46,340
thrown in just a little bit but if you

1658
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:48,230
go to places like chichi cotton tango

1659
01:12:53,410 --> 01:12:50,570
and you go up to the possible Abbas Hill

1660
01:12:54,910 --> 01:12:53,420
the medicine people that worship at that

1661
01:12:56,859 --> 01:12:54,920
Hill there at the sacred Rock on that

1662
01:13:00,160 --> 01:12:56,869
hill they're doing the same ceremony

1663
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:00,170
that their ancestors did for hundreds of

1664
01:13:05,410 --> 01:13:02,690
years the only thing I would say that's

1665
01:13:07,930 --> 01:13:05,420
different from a thousand years ago is

1666
01:13:09,549 --> 01:13:07,940
that instead of sacrificing humans they

1667
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:09,559
sacrificed chickens well that's that's

1668
01:13:13,750 --> 01:13:11,449
more encouraging to know I'm glad to

1669
01:13:16,089 --> 01:13:13,760
know that chickens not humans also I'd

1670
01:13:18,669 --> 01:13:16,099
like to say in Palenque even when we

1671
01:13:21,850 --> 01:13:18,679
lived there the chola Maya there's

1672
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:21,860
thirty over thirty my ex and each style

1673
01:13:26,169 --> 01:13:23,690
that comes with a group of Maya people

1674
01:13:26,890 --> 01:13:26,179
and they all have an origin and they

1675
01:13:28,900 --> 01:13:26,900
have certain

1676
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:28,910
things within their community that they

1677
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:31,370
are known for doing among the maya and

1678
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:33,410
each of these Maya communities has a

1679
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:37,010
responsibility and from the weavers in

1680
01:13:41,860 --> 01:13:39,650
the highlands to the stone craftsman

1681
01:13:45,670 --> 01:13:41,870
every all these different communities

1682
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:45,680
have different responsibilities I knew

1683
01:13:51,340 --> 01:13:49,370
Maya in the Yucatan who was given

1684
01:13:53,380 --> 01:13:51,350
stories passed from his father who is

1685
01:13:55,750 --> 01:13:53,390
passed from his father all the way down

1686
01:13:57,460 --> 01:13:55,760
about some of the secrets to how they

1687
01:13:59,650 --> 01:13:57,470
built the pyramids and so they

1688
01:14:03,010 --> 01:13:59,660
definitely have connections and a lot of

1689
01:14:04,810 --> 01:14:03,020
these Maya people live in right in with

1690
01:14:06,570 --> 01:14:04,820
these ruins when they came in and found

1691
01:14:08,770 --> 01:14:06,580
these pyramids there were people

1692
01:14:12,340 --> 01:14:08,780
communities living there and they are

1693
01:14:14,350 --> 01:14:12,350
descendants from those particular ruins

1694
01:14:16,480 --> 01:14:14,360
they know them personally they consider

1695
01:14:19,210 --> 01:14:16,490
them a part of their house they don't

1696
01:14:21,340 --> 01:14:19,220
see that if you look on the iconography

1697
01:14:24,580 --> 01:14:21,350
of the sky and the carvings and the

1698
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:24,590
frescoes and of Maya pyramids when you

1699
01:14:29,410 --> 01:14:26,810
go to different Maya regions you will

1700
01:14:32,050 --> 01:14:29,420
actually see that the people on the

1701
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:32,060
carvings look just like the people that

1702
01:14:36,820 --> 01:14:34,250
you're seeing day-to-day in town the

1703
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:36,830
same shape in it and they each

1704
01:14:44,410 --> 01:14:40,930
individual individual components like in

1705
01:14:48,070 --> 01:14:44,420
Chiapas in Tabasco in the Olmec region

1706
01:14:50,170 --> 01:14:48,080
the people have very distinctive noses

1707
01:14:52,540 --> 01:14:50,180
and full mouth that look just like the

1708
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:52,550
Olmec head when you go to other parts of

1709
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:54,650
like if you go to Honduras the people

1710
01:14:58,180 --> 01:14:56,210
have a very different Flair and their

1711
01:15:00,010 --> 01:14:58,190
nose and facial features that's very

1712
01:15:01,630 --> 01:15:00,020
distinctive towards that part of the

1713
01:15:03,910 --> 01:15:01,640
Maya world so when you're looking at the

1714
01:15:05,980 --> 01:15:03,920
Stella and you're seeing the same thing

1715
01:15:08,530 --> 01:15:05,990
as the person that just checked you into

1716
01:15:11,910 --> 01:15:08,540
your hotel you'd have to be really out

1717
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:11,920
of it to not notice that that's directly

1718
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:13,970
by the way there are lots of ways to

1719
01:15:17,770 --> 01:15:16,010
contact us here at the power cast you

1720
01:15:20,740 --> 01:15:17,780
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[Music]

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this is your wrong plug laughter of the

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UFO on cycle feed in other books you're

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listening to the parrot cat with Gene

1834
01:20:12,300 --> 01:20:09,940
and Chris we are basically posing your

1835
01:20:14,459 --> 01:20:12,310
questions listeners number of questions

1836
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:14,469
listeners ask some things fair amount of

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things we've covered already with our

1838
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guests clifford mahooty Brendan O'Brien

1839
01:20:25,260 --> 01:20:23,080
and Johnny Chanel but we have some more

1840
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things to discuss you want to wrap up

1841
01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:27,880
that last discussion Johnny or go on to

1842
01:20:36,419 --> 01:20:33,449
another question another thing too is

1843
01:20:38,310 --> 01:20:36,429
once you get in you have traveled to

1844
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:38,320
these communities and you see the

1845
01:20:44,669 --> 01:20:41,290
different building styles both now and

1846
01:20:48,390 --> 01:20:44,679
and the ancient building styles you

1847
01:20:50,339 --> 01:20:48,400
almost get the feeling that they have

1848
01:20:52,830 --> 01:20:50,349
different dialects and they look

1849
01:20:55,140 --> 01:20:52,840
differently that they almost come from

1850
01:20:58,109 --> 01:20:55,150
different parts of the world and it

1851
01:21:00,300 --> 01:20:58,119
would almost shock you there are up in

1852
01:21:02,700 --> 01:21:00,310
the cloud forest near san cristobal

1853
01:21:04,890 --> 01:21:02,710
there are a group of maya

1854
01:21:06,839 --> 01:21:04,900
who all dressed in white they're very

1855
01:21:09,180 --> 01:21:06,849
slender very tall they don't look like

1856
01:21:12,270 --> 01:21:09,190
the short Maya that are down in the

1857
01:21:14,339 --> 01:21:12,280
Yucatan or the troll Maya they look like

1858
01:21:16,859 --> 01:21:14,349
they're from the east recently from

1859
01:21:20,100 --> 01:21:16,869
India their effect and the way they are

1860
01:21:22,950 --> 01:21:20,110
whereas if you're let's say Oh down in

1861
01:21:24,899 --> 01:21:22,960
the Yucatan you'll see Chinese

1862
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:24,909
resembling should go to another

1863
01:21:29,729 --> 01:21:27,250
community and you'll see Japanese and

1864
01:21:31,169 --> 01:21:29,739
it's it's very evident that there are

1865
01:21:32,850 --> 01:21:31,179
different people but they're the same

1866
01:21:35,790 --> 01:21:32,860
and with one last thing

1867
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:35,800
all Maya have what's called is the

1868
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:38,650
Mongolian spot at birth and the only

1869
01:21:43,620 --> 01:21:40,690
other people who have it on earth are

1870
01:21:46,290 --> 01:21:43,630
people from Mongolia so at birth at the

1871
01:21:48,270 --> 01:21:46,300
bottom of every Mayan spying is a spot

1872
01:21:50,399 --> 01:21:48,280
it's a brown birthmark and it's very

1873
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:50,409
well pronounced as they get order this

1874
01:21:53,490 --> 01:21:53,290
spot disappears totally okay there you

1875
01:21:55,290 --> 01:21:53,500
go

1876
01:21:57,600 --> 01:21:55,300
all right I have fast question about

1877
01:22:00,060 --> 01:21:57,610
this and that is you mentioned what if

1878
01:22:01,950 --> 01:22:00,070
you mentioned that a million of the

1879
01:22:04,709 --> 01:22:01,960
Mayan people lived in the United States

1880
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:04,719
are they assimilated enough and do our

1881
01:22:08,979 --> 01:22:06,650
society that may be one of them

1882
01:22:10,959 --> 01:22:08,989
would come on the show and talk about

1883
01:22:13,570 --> 01:22:10,969
the legends of their history and culture

1884
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:13,580
there's a woman that teaches up near you

1885
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:15,890
who would be a wonderful guest on your

1886
01:22:20,890 --> 01:22:17,810
show and I'll give you that information

1887
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:20,900
after the show okay one of her I just

1888
01:22:24,310 --> 01:22:22,250
have to say that one of the reasons that

1889
01:22:26,229 --> 01:22:24,320
we thought a million-mile inning in the

1890
01:22:29,410 --> 01:22:26,239
United States is because of the civil

1891
01:22:31,570 --> 01:22:29,420
war in Guatemala and if during that

1892
01:22:34,390 --> 01:22:31,580
period the government and the military

1893
01:22:37,390 --> 01:22:34,400
was committing genocide on their

1894
01:22:39,430 --> 01:22:37,400
military yeah and a lot of those people

1895
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:39,440
are able to get amnesty in comes the

1896
01:22:46,180 --> 01:22:42,530
United States to get away from that so

1897
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:46,190
that was an influx as a result of the

1898
01:22:52,390 --> 01:22:49,730
Civil War Christian please well this is

1899
01:22:55,780 --> 01:22:52,400
a long kind of statement from one of our

1900
01:22:58,149 --> 01:22:55,790
longtime posters ww Kirk and he does

1901
01:23:00,160 --> 01:22:58,159
kind of sum up what we've been talking

1902
01:23:01,510 --> 01:23:00,170
about in terms of the Maya one of the

1903
01:23:04,660 --> 01:23:01,520
things I think he's interested in

1904
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:04,670
knowing though is is why did we see a

1905
01:23:09,550 --> 01:23:07,489
collapse of the real urban City based

1906
01:23:12,100 --> 01:23:09,560
Maya during the 8th and 9th centuries

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01:23:15,220 --> 01:23:12,110
which is two three hundred years before

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01:23:17,530 --> 01:23:15,230
the at least 300 years before the

1909
01:23:21,669 --> 01:23:17,540
Spanish arrived that's that's part one

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01:23:24,340 --> 01:23:21,679
and part two is are they still holding

1911
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:24,350
on to some of the books that may have

1912
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:27,370
survived the Spanish Inquisition

1913
01:23:33,130 --> 01:23:30,530
destroying all examples of my own

1914
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:33,140
writing part two part two is a hard one

1915
01:23:41,260 --> 01:23:36,010
to answer but I will address part one

1916
01:23:45,669 --> 01:23:41,270
when when we get into the the whole

1917
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:45,679
issue of the Maya people and who they

1918
01:23:50,709 --> 01:23:49,250
are today and in that respect of their

1919
01:23:54,700 --> 01:23:50,719
holding on to their traditions and

1920
01:23:57,280 --> 01:23:54,710
everything we have to remember that they

1921
01:23:59,770 --> 01:23:57,290
have been through many catastrophes the

1922
01:24:02,140 --> 01:23:59,780
Maya people are incredibly resilient the

1923
01:24:05,590 --> 01:24:02,150
word hurricane that's a Maya word

1924
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:05,600
Huracan okay they when a hurricane

1925
01:24:10,810 --> 01:24:08,570
happens in Cancun it can lay the whole

1926
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:10,820
town down and before it was four months

1927
01:24:15,189 --> 01:24:13,130
later it acts where you wouldn't even

1928
01:24:17,169 --> 01:24:15,199
know that anything happened the people

1929
01:24:19,870 --> 01:24:17,179
just picked themselves up and go keep

1930
01:24:20,629 --> 01:24:19,880
going so remember that the Maya people

1931
01:24:25,129 --> 01:24:20,639
are credit

1932
01:24:27,259 --> 01:24:25,139
resilient and when I think that what

1933
01:24:28,609 --> 01:24:27,269
happened with our civilization we can

1934
01:24:30,879 --> 01:24:28,619
make a lot of conjectures but the

1935
01:24:34,909 --> 01:24:30,889
geologists have made it very clear that

1936
01:24:37,370 --> 01:24:34,919
the deforestation that they had to do in

1937
01:24:39,229 --> 01:24:37,380
order to build their temples because to

1938
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:39,239
build to make the limestone for the

1939
01:24:44,959 --> 01:24:42,090
blocks it all had to be put in a kiln of

1940
01:24:47,750 --> 01:24:44,969
lots of wood they had to cut down all of

1941
01:24:50,239 --> 01:24:47,760
these trees if you saw them ancient Maya

1942
01:24:51,889 --> 01:24:50,249
world at its peak the Yucatan would have

1943
01:24:55,310 --> 01:24:51,899
our be any trees on it you would be able

1944
01:24:58,609 --> 01:24:55,320
to place it under hand yeah like they do

1945
01:25:00,529 --> 01:24:58,619
in Japan right and so in that respect if

1946
01:25:02,899 --> 01:25:00,539
you cut down all the trees then the rain

1947
01:25:04,580 --> 01:25:02,909
doesn't come and that the geologists

1948
01:25:06,290 --> 01:25:04,590
have shown for the tree the tree rings

1949
01:25:09,189 --> 01:25:06,300
and everything that during that period

1950
01:25:10,399 --> 01:25:09,199
where that the end of the Maya

1951
01:25:13,639 --> 01:25:10,409
civilization

1952
01:25:16,370 --> 01:25:13,649
that they did not have enough rain or

1953
01:25:21,379 --> 01:25:16,380
food to take care of everything that

1954
01:25:23,089 --> 01:25:21,389
they had built up let me interject let

1955
01:25:27,709 --> 01:25:23,099
me interject something too at the same

1956
01:25:30,949 --> 01:25:27,719
time you see the Classic Maya which I

1957
01:25:34,279 --> 01:25:30,959
believe Clifford was very eloquent in

1958
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:34,289
stating that they had at the beginning

1959
01:25:40,549 --> 01:25:38,010
of their rituals they had all the parts

1960
01:25:43,729 --> 01:25:40,559
of the ritual they had all the

1961
01:25:48,259 --> 01:25:43,739
mechanisms that they needed in order to

1962
01:25:50,989 --> 01:25:48,269
keep balance but even in their own world

1963
01:25:53,870 --> 01:25:50,999
with power with the assumption of power

1964
01:25:56,419 --> 01:25:53,880
and Kings and the strife and the

1965
01:25:59,870 --> 01:25:56,429
fighting and the resources dwindling as

1966
01:26:02,870 --> 01:25:59,880
that happened the Toltec yeah yeah yeah

1967
01:26:05,779 --> 01:26:02,880
and yeah also the Toltec coming in but

1968
01:26:08,839 --> 01:26:05,789
what happened is they you know I I don't

1969
01:26:10,850 --> 01:26:08,849
want to put it in a gross way but like

1970
01:26:14,569 --> 01:26:10,860
they pulled they were pulling so many

1971
01:26:16,879 --> 01:26:14,579
hearts in Chichen itzá to try to get the

1972
01:26:18,620 --> 01:26:16,889
same result that during the classic

1973
01:26:21,770 --> 01:26:18,630
period they would have gotten with one

1974
01:26:23,750 --> 01:26:21,780
heart in a ritualized warfare so they

1975
01:26:25,580 --> 01:26:23,760
got out of balance they became out of

1976
01:26:28,219 --> 01:26:25,590
balance and that's why they literally

1977
01:26:30,259 --> 01:26:28,229
walked away from the pyramids and those

1978
01:26:32,870 --> 01:26:30,269
rituals that didn't keep things in

1979
01:26:34,279 --> 01:26:32,880
balance anymore and that was the fatal

1980
01:26:36,919 --> 01:26:34,289
classic period

1981
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:36,929
when the balance was lost when the keys

1982
01:26:41,779 --> 01:26:39,449
to balance and the rituals to balance

1983
01:26:45,259 --> 01:26:41,789
weren't being recognized that's when

1984
01:26:49,609 --> 01:26:45,269
they had their major warfare during this

1985
01:26:52,490 --> 01:26:49,619
strike during the loss of the balance

1986
01:26:55,790 --> 01:26:52,500
that they had and as part of that in the

1987
01:26:57,439 --> 01:26:55,800
classic period of the Maya it really at

1988
01:26:59,959 --> 01:26:57,449
their height was called the classic

1989
01:27:03,189 --> 01:26:59,969
period in that period the kings and the

1990
01:27:05,779 --> 01:27:03,199
queens had an incredible amount of

1991
01:27:08,509 --> 01:27:05,789
responsibility to bear it was not an

1992
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:08,519
easy job it was not a posh job was not

1993
01:27:12,770 --> 01:27:10,530
cush they had they had the

1994
01:27:14,770 --> 01:27:12,780
responsibility of doing these piercing

1995
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:14,780
like genitalia with a stingray spine

1996
01:27:20,419 --> 01:27:18,449
that's gotta hurt right well that's what

1997
01:27:22,069 --> 01:27:20,429
those responsibilities of the king and

1998
01:27:23,779 --> 01:27:22,079
the Queen were that great Saint yeah

1999
01:27:26,390 --> 01:27:23,789
they were the ones that had to let the

2000
01:27:29,149 --> 01:27:26,400
blood the the the Queen had to pull a

2001
01:27:32,089 --> 01:27:29,159
rope of find thorns through her tongue

2002
01:27:33,740 --> 01:27:32,099
and then she'd have a vision that she

2003
01:27:36,470 --> 01:27:33,750
could tell the people but what was the

2004
01:27:39,979 --> 01:27:36,480
appropriate thing to do and it was their

2005
01:27:43,220 --> 01:27:39,989
responsibility in the Postclassic the

2006
01:27:45,140 --> 01:27:43,230
children rebelled the Warriors took over

2007
01:27:48,500 --> 01:27:45,150
and they said we don't need mom and dad

2008
01:27:50,629 --> 01:27:48,510
anymore and we don't need them to do

2009
01:27:52,609 --> 01:27:50,639
that that way we're going to change it

2010
01:27:54,229 --> 01:27:52,619
the gods want blood we'll just pick

2011
01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:54,239
peasants up out of the field and take

2012
01:27:57,500 --> 01:27:56,250
them back home and rip their heart out

2013
01:28:00,799 --> 01:27:57,510
and draw down the bottom of the pyramid

2014
01:28:03,500 --> 01:28:00,809
that was later that was a later period

2015
01:28:06,290 --> 01:28:03,510
of my in the original classic form the

2016
01:28:09,319 --> 01:28:06,300
kings and queens and the priesthood of

2017
01:28:11,839 --> 01:28:09,329
the Maya people they had so much

2018
01:28:14,299 --> 01:28:11,849
spiritual responsibility their whole

2019
01:28:17,029 --> 01:28:14,309
life was a spiritual act they didn't get

2020
01:28:19,759 --> 01:28:17,039
to be normal people they didn't get to

2021
01:28:22,790 --> 01:28:19,769
set foot on the ground they were their

2022
01:28:25,580 --> 01:28:22,800
whole life was doing the rituals to keep

2023
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:25,590
everything correct there's a there's a

2024
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:28,010
wonderful book it's called

2025
01:28:35,299 --> 01:28:31,170
Jesus I don't have a branch now the last

2026
01:28:38,509 --> 01:28:35,309
of the Maya Lords but it talks about the

2027
01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:38,519
what the responsibilities of the kings

2028
01:28:42,830 --> 01:28:40,170
and queens were and they basically

2029
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:42,840
opened and closed portals and now and

2030
01:28:47,610 --> 01:28:46,650
they're what what they did they were the

2031
01:28:49,830 --> 01:28:47,620
ones who were

2032
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:49,840
able to open a portal to connect with

2033
01:28:53,700 --> 01:28:52,210
the ancestors and they did it through

2034
01:28:57,840 --> 01:28:53,710
ritual and they needed the whole

2035
01:29:00,120 --> 01:28:57,850
community but each each king and queen

2036
01:29:03,660 --> 01:29:00,130
in each place like Johnny said it would

2037
01:29:07,140 --> 01:29:03,670
not be a job you'd want you know so most

2038
01:29:10,830 --> 01:29:07,150
did it be a curse but when that was

2039
01:29:13,350 --> 01:29:10,840
going on life was like poetry and then

2040
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as things started to degra gate as they

2041
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started to take away from the land and

2042
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weren't able and deforesting which is

2043
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2044
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they could not live up to the

2045
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2046
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2149
01:33:55,300 --> 01:33:52,450
there's if you're Mosley get it or a

2150
01:33:57,910 --> 01:33:55,310
saucer smear and I'm here to say a good

2151
01:33:59,890 --> 01:33:57,920
word or two about the power cast which I

2152
01:34:05,340 --> 01:33:59,900
believe is the gold standard the

2153
01:34:10,780 --> 01:34:07,720
with gene and Chris you're in the para

2154
01:34:13,270 --> 01:34:10,790
cast a special roundtable discussion

2155
01:34:16,300 --> 01:34:13,280
about Mayan mysteries and more with

2156
01:34:18,340 --> 01:34:16,310
Brendan O'Brien clifford mahooty Johnny

2157
01:34:20,290 --> 01:34:18,350
Shannon Ella we've been answering your

2158
01:34:22,510 --> 01:34:20,300
questions and focusing on further

2159
01:34:23,860 --> 01:34:22,520
subjects Brendan your go on before we

2160
01:34:26,530 --> 01:34:23,870
get to another question well I have a

2161
01:34:28,930 --> 01:34:26,540
quick question for for Clifford that's

2162
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:28,940
along the lines of our conversation now

2163
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:31,610
Johnny and Brendan Clifford mentioned a

2164
01:34:37,900 --> 01:34:36,170
vision by ordeal now I'm sure the Pueblo

2165
01:34:39,810 --> 01:34:37,910
people have similar traditions of course

2166
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:39,820
on the plains you have the Sundance

2167
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:42,890
among the Lakota and other Plains

2168
01:34:48,700 --> 01:34:45,370
Indians would be an example of ordeal

2169
01:34:51,190 --> 01:34:48,710
what are some of the the more sacred

2170
01:34:54,280 --> 01:34:51,200
ordeal processes within the Pueblo

2171
01:34:56,470 --> 01:34:54,290
people well one of the things in xuit is

2172
01:35:00,040 --> 01:34:56,480
that we have a ritual every four years

2173
01:35:02,620 --> 01:35:00,050
yeah it happens to be the year that we

2174
01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:02,630
go to a place called the home of the

2175
01:35:08,290 --> 01:35:05,810
Kachinas and it's also called Zuni

2176
01:35:12,100 --> 01:35:08,300
heaven for a better lack of word I guess

2177
01:35:15,400 --> 01:35:12,110
and it's right here about 50 miles from

2178
01:35:20,050 --> 01:35:15,410
where I'm at it's near a town called st.

2179
01:35:22,180 --> 01:35:20,060
John's in control Arizona and when they

2180
01:35:24,690 --> 01:35:22,190
go on that pilgrimage all the priesthood

2181
01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:24,700
the Kachina people all the ritual

2182
01:35:29,410 --> 01:35:26,930
related people they go there and they

2183
01:35:31,900 --> 01:35:29,420
were Stargate there and that's where

2184
01:35:35,979 --> 01:35:31,910
they get their their visions of what's

2185
01:35:37,690 --> 01:35:35,989
going to be coming in the future a lot

2186
01:35:40,420 --> 01:35:37,700
of so there's you're looking at at least

2187
01:35:43,780 --> 01:35:40,430
about 200 people that go on the

2188
01:35:45,580 --> 01:35:43,790
pilgrimage and in in previous times

2189
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:45,590
there's been a lot of things that were

2190
01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:50,090
shown them for example the zuni's knew

2191
01:35:57,100 --> 01:35:54,530
about 9/11 in June right after right

2192
01:35:59,290 --> 01:35:57,110
before the Solstice II and we did not

2193
01:36:01,570 --> 01:35:59,300
know at that time what the because

2194
01:36:03,940 --> 01:36:01,580
there's no dates given they just said

2195
01:36:06,730 --> 01:36:03,950
that this will happen in the future

2196
01:36:08,710 --> 01:36:06,740
what they saw in June they'd have of

2197
01:36:12,790 --> 01:36:08,720
course it happened in September so that

2198
01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:12,800
was one of the shortest shortest a time

2199
01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:15,890
frame but there's also other things that

2200
01:36:21,250 --> 01:36:18,530
were given on the last one

2201
01:36:23,290 --> 01:36:21,260
four years ago the premonition or the

2202
01:36:26,200 --> 01:36:23,300
vision they were spewing them was a half

2203
01:36:29,140 --> 01:36:26,210
the world was dark and the Hat the world

2204
01:36:31,750 --> 01:36:29,150
was in light and there was a lot of UFO

2205
01:36:34,690 --> 01:36:31,760
activity at that time when they were

2206
01:36:38,010 --> 01:36:34,700
going so they were probably probably

2207
01:36:41,590 --> 01:36:38,020
interpreted as well it looks like we're

2208
01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:41,600
getting point to the point now where the

2209
01:36:47,980 --> 01:36:45,530
the world will come to be either they'd

2210
01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:47,990
stops or something will happen or half

2211
01:36:52,750 --> 01:36:50,210
the world would become black and they'd

2212
01:36:55,690 --> 01:36:52,760
have to oil become light and Clifford

2213
01:36:57,780 --> 01:36:55,700
Clifford that totally is in lines with

2214
01:37:00,610 --> 01:36:57,790
ladawna Alejandra one of the Guatemala

2215
01:37:03,100 --> 01:37:00,620
timekeepers that came up here on a very

2216
01:37:05,260 --> 01:37:03,110
rare speaking tour about five or six

2217
01:37:08,830 --> 01:37:05,270
years ago that's exactly what he said

2218
01:37:11,170 --> 01:37:08,840
the Maya were expecting the Sun not to

2219
01:37:13,090 --> 01:37:11,180
come up one day and of course the

2220
01:37:14,980 --> 01:37:13,100
admonishment to the listeners was don't

2221
01:37:16,840 --> 01:37:14,990
you know if that happens lock your doors

2222
01:37:18,130 --> 01:37:16,850
lock your windows cover your windows and

2223
01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:18,140
no matter who comes to the door don't

2224
01:37:22,230 --> 01:37:20,210
let him in so I find it very interesting

2225
01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:22,240
what Johnny and Brenda what do you think

2226
01:37:30,160 --> 01:37:26,210
about this correlation well I do know

2227
01:37:31,990 --> 01:37:30,170
that in preparing for this endtime of

2228
01:37:36,100 --> 01:37:32,000
the Indian calendar and beginning of

2229
01:37:38,500 --> 01:37:36,110
another that there are a lot of there's

2230
01:37:41,350 --> 01:37:38,510
a lot of rumors that float around the

2231
01:37:45,180 --> 01:37:41,360
Maya world that even Brendon and I when

2232
01:37:49,390 --> 01:37:45,190
we first went to the Yucatan together in

2233
01:37:51,580 --> 01:37:49,400
1999 we met up with somebody of

2234
01:37:53,800 --> 01:37:51,590
well-traveled guy that had really

2235
01:37:56,290 --> 01:37:53,810
integrated himself into a bunch of Maya

2236
01:37:59,740 --> 01:37:56,300
communities he said I look like Yoon's

2237
01:38:02,230 --> 01:37:59,750
wise old man with gray hair and very

2238
01:38:05,530 --> 01:38:02,240
interesting guy and he told us that the

2239
01:38:07,900 --> 01:38:05,540
Maya all said that at the end of when it

2240
01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:07,910
happens at the end of the calorie thing

2241
01:38:14,380 --> 01:38:11,890
it the place to be is in Shayla which is

2242
01:38:16,840 --> 01:38:14,390
community way up in the Guatemala

2243
01:38:17,779 --> 01:38:16,850
highlands and that if you were there you

2244
01:38:20,959 --> 01:38:17,789
would be safe

2245
01:38:24,589 --> 01:38:20,969
well it became sort of a gossipy thing

2246
01:38:26,899 --> 01:38:24,599
around everybody it was like you know

2247
01:38:29,029 --> 01:38:26,909
well when 2012 comes this is what we're

2248
01:38:30,830 --> 01:38:29,039
going to do and you know we had used to

2249
01:38:33,350 --> 01:38:30,840
make jokes there friends that had that

2250
01:38:34,759 --> 01:38:33,360
own land in Palenque and say well we're

2251
01:38:38,709 --> 01:38:34,769
gonna sell this this is going to be

2252
01:38:42,049 --> 01:38:38,719
beachfront property in 2012 you know

2253
01:38:44,629 --> 01:38:42,059
they're you know this it's there's a lot

2254
01:38:48,049 --> 01:38:44,639
of rumors that go around about what what

2255
01:38:51,890 --> 01:38:48,059
is going to be but there's nothing

2256
01:38:53,569 --> 01:38:51,900
definitive on record and we could have a

2257
01:38:56,479 --> 01:38:53,579
complete polar shift that would not

2258
01:38:58,479 --> 01:38:56,489
surprise me at all I think the thing is

2259
01:39:01,250 --> 01:38:58,489
that we all really need to be prepared

2260
01:39:06,830 --> 01:39:01,260
aware that how do you prepare for a

2261
01:39:10,069 --> 01:39:06,840
polar shift let me ask you that there's

2262
01:39:13,870 --> 01:39:10,079
absolutely no way this is what really is

2263
01:39:19,100 --> 01:39:13,880
kind of puzzling to me so why are they

2264
01:39:22,100 --> 01:39:19,110
hoarding food and water and because when

2265
01:39:28,160 --> 01:39:22,110
it happens they we leave the zuly world

2266
01:39:32,419 --> 01:39:28,170
know that we are only supposed to hunker

2267
01:39:34,609 --> 01:39:32,429
down so to speak and to carry out what

2268
01:39:36,410 --> 01:39:34,619
our rituals were given us from the

2269
01:39:38,959 --> 01:39:36,420
beginning which in this case are the

2270
01:39:43,759 --> 01:39:38,969
prayer system the ritual we are a very

2271
01:39:46,370 --> 01:39:43,769
complex pain the gods system here in

2272
01:39:49,009 --> 01:39:46,380
Zune and we still do it on them on a

2273
01:39:51,529 --> 01:39:49,019
regular basis I do that every month

2274
01:39:54,319 --> 01:39:51,539
during the full moon and there's other

2275
01:39:58,310 --> 01:39:54,329
people that are in other that societies

2276
01:40:00,410 --> 01:39:58,320
and other groups that we still follow

2277
01:40:02,689 --> 01:40:00,420
that pattern because that's what the

2278
01:40:05,930 --> 01:40:02,699
prayers are all about it the prayer is

2279
01:40:08,299 --> 01:40:05,940
that we do not know when the end will

2280
01:40:11,509 --> 01:40:08,309
come however because we are carrying out

2281
01:40:15,649 --> 01:40:11,519
the duties given by the the gods on the

2282
01:40:17,930 --> 01:40:15,659
beginning we only hope that we will be

2283
01:40:21,109 --> 01:40:17,940
given that chance to survive into the

2284
01:40:23,830 --> 01:40:21,119
next world and the prayers are a very

2285
01:40:27,259 --> 01:40:23,840
expensive but I think what has happened

2286
01:40:29,149 --> 01:40:27,269
this whole mindset about the end of the

2287
01:40:31,250 --> 01:40:29,159
world type situation there's a lot of

2288
01:40:34,130 --> 01:40:31,260
people who has done involved in it

2289
01:40:36,400 --> 01:40:34,140
that doesn't speak for the for the

2290
01:40:39,740 --> 01:40:36,410
indigenous people that have that

2291
01:40:45,170 --> 01:40:39,750
esoteric knowledge about about the

2292
01:40:47,540 --> 01:40:45,180
future and my observation is that they

2293
01:40:49,640 --> 01:40:47,550
do this just like anything else for

2294
01:40:52,190 --> 01:40:49,650
commercial and monetary gain

2295
01:40:55,430 --> 01:40:52,200
but it's amazing there's a gain if you

2296
01:40:57,470 --> 01:40:55,440
can sell the premise that the world's

2297
01:40:59,660 --> 01:40:57,480
going to end and a specific date and

2298
01:41:02,150 --> 01:40:59,670
time you profit from it because you sell

2299
01:41:05,330 --> 01:41:02,160
foods that you have to store for the end

2300
01:41:07,730 --> 01:41:05,340
of civilization or you sell programs or

2301
01:41:10,160 --> 01:41:07,740
books or presentations that help you

2302
01:41:12,590 --> 01:41:10,170
prepare for the other side whatever it

2303
01:41:15,080 --> 01:41:12,600
is for some people it's not just

2304
01:41:17,390 --> 01:41:15,090
monetary gain some people actually they

2305
01:41:19,430 --> 01:41:17,400
just need to get attention or there's

2306
01:41:22,090 --> 01:41:19,440
also the fear factor and you know a

2307
01:41:24,650 --> 01:41:22,100
society held in fear we have these

2308
01:41:27,560 --> 01:41:24,660
Indian state prophecies that come around

2309
01:41:29,780 --> 01:41:27,570
a lot and what I think that should be is

2310
01:41:32,180 --> 01:41:29,790
the more out of balance that we become

2311
01:41:34,190 --> 01:41:32,190
and we know we're at about I mean let's

2312
01:41:36,830 --> 01:41:34,200
get that straight you know I think

2313
01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:36,840
there's a guilty conscience to you know

2314
01:41:40,370 --> 01:41:38,970
because if you know that we're out of

2315
01:41:43,100 --> 01:41:40,380
balance and you're not doing anything

2316
01:41:46,880 --> 01:41:43,110
about it you can keep people regress

2317
01:41:49,790 --> 01:41:46,890
quickly to you know doomsday prophecies

2318
01:41:51,950 --> 01:41:49,800
and building bunkers and kind of keeps

2319
01:41:54,290 --> 01:41:51,960
people in check we've seen that through

2320
01:41:56,480 --> 01:41:54,300
the years yeah buying four hundred and

2321
01:41:59,090 --> 01:41:56,490
fifty million rounds of 40 caliber

2322
01:42:03,050 --> 01:41:59,100
ammunition that Department of Homeland

2323
01:42:05,960 --> 01:42:03,060
Security or somebody just bought and he

2324
01:42:08,480 --> 01:42:05,970
you know I really Clifford I have to say

2325
01:42:11,060 --> 01:42:08,490
that the way that you just expressed

2326
01:42:14,960 --> 01:42:11,070
what you said about that you offer your

2327
01:42:17,600 --> 01:42:14,970
prayers and you hope that you're that

2328
01:42:20,270 --> 01:42:17,610
you'll those prayers will work and be

2329
01:42:22,880 --> 01:42:20,280
sufficient that's a very humble way that

2330
01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:22,890
the Maya people approach it to they're

2331
01:42:27,500 --> 01:42:25,770
very much whatever it is it's going to

2332
01:42:28,970 --> 01:42:27,510
be well we've been through a lot of

2333
01:42:31,220 --> 01:42:28,980
stuff and we're going to go through some

2334
01:42:33,500 --> 01:42:31,230
stuff and we just hope that you know

2335
01:42:36,980 --> 01:42:33,510
each individual on their own on their

2336
01:42:38,810 --> 01:42:36,990
own responsibility does the things that

2337
01:42:42,580 --> 01:42:38,820
are appropriate and respectful enough

2338
01:42:45,169 --> 01:42:42,590
that we can have we can persevere and

2339
01:42:48,649 --> 01:42:45,179
also part of that thing too is

2340
01:42:51,279 --> 01:42:48,659
I have to point out a very huge cultural

2341
01:42:54,259 --> 01:42:51,289
difference between the Western mindset

2342
01:42:58,839 --> 01:42:54,269
that believes that you only come here

2343
01:43:04,239 --> 01:42:58,849
one time and that's it and the

2344
01:43:06,799 --> 01:43:04,249
indigenous people reality that we are

2345
01:43:08,899 --> 01:43:06,809
ancestors there are descendants of our

2346
01:43:13,549 --> 01:43:08,909
ancestors and that we are always being

2347
01:43:16,520 --> 01:43:13,559
reborn the Maya people are very very

2348
01:43:19,129 --> 01:43:16,530
much into their ancestors if you're in

2349
01:43:20,989 --> 01:43:19,139
Guatemala if you want to marry a woman

2350
01:43:24,529 --> 01:43:20,999
if you're a man and you want to marry a

2351
01:43:27,109 --> 01:43:24,539
woman you have to go to the day keeper

2352
01:43:29,779 --> 01:43:27,119
and they have to talk go to your family

2353
01:43:31,370 --> 01:43:29,789
altars and ask the ancestors whether

2354
01:43:33,919 --> 01:43:31,380
it's okay for the two of you to get

2355
01:43:35,509 --> 01:43:33,929
married if it turns out that you have a

2356
01:43:37,879 --> 01:43:35,519
couple of ancestors that had a problem

2357
01:43:39,350 --> 01:43:37,889
with each other then the day people will

2358
01:43:42,229 --> 01:43:39,360
say you can't get married you guys are

2359
01:43:44,719 --> 01:43:42,239
gonna fight all the time so there's very

2360
01:43:47,359 --> 01:43:44,729
much a continuity and communication with

2361
01:43:49,729 --> 01:43:47,369
the ancestors that makes them fearless

2362
01:43:51,229 --> 01:43:49,739
and that they're not afraid of dying the

2363
01:43:53,479 --> 01:43:51,239
same way that people on the Western

2364
01:43:55,819 --> 01:43:53,489
world are in the Western world we think

2365
01:43:58,250 --> 01:43:55,829
I die and that's it oh my god that's it

2366
01:44:01,160 --> 01:43:58,260
I got one life to live the Maya people

2367
01:44:04,689 --> 01:44:01,170
don't see that that way it's all walking

2368
01:44:08,120 --> 01:44:04,699
through it's not even like reincarnation

2369
01:44:11,479 --> 01:44:08,130
they see it more as a DNA continuation

2370
01:44:13,879 --> 01:44:11,489
so basically go into another universe or

2371
01:44:16,310 --> 01:44:13,889
reality I'm gonna ask about that with

2372
01:44:25,510 --> 01:44:16,320
our guests Gina Chris with gene and

2373
01:44:30,600 --> 01:44:27,020
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standing army today understand I'm

2400
01:45:27,810 --> 01:45:25,990
placing a free silver dollar in a book

2401
01:45:31,260 --> 01:45:27,820
that explains our monetary system call

2402
01:45:34,470 --> 01:45:31,270
for your copy 800 686 to 237 it's time

2403
01:45:36,360 --> 01:45:34,480
to understand the system call 866 to 237

2404
01:45:43,890 --> 01:45:36,370
that's eight hundred six eight six two

2405
01:45:51,930 --> 01:45:47,620
welcome back into the para cast the gold

2406
01:46:00,010 --> 01:45:51,940
standard of paranormal radio and now

2407
01:46:02,530 --> 01:46:00,020
here's Jane Steinberg we have a special

2408
01:46:04,810 --> 01:46:02,540
I guess we'll call it a Mayan roundtable

2409
01:46:07,510 --> 01:46:04,820
featuring clifford mahooty a Zuni elder

2410
01:46:10,360 --> 01:46:07,520
Ren de no Bryan and Johnny Chanel of the

2411
01:46:13,360 --> 01:46:10,370
Maya sites travel service and before we

2412
01:46:15,070 --> 01:46:13,370
broke Johnny you were starting a bit of

2413
01:46:18,910 --> 01:46:15,080
a presentation or statement can you go

2414
01:46:21,850 --> 01:46:18,920
on well we were talking about Maya ideas

2415
01:46:24,700 --> 01:46:21,860
about what the only word we have is from

2416
01:46:27,250 --> 01:46:24,710
the Incarnation but I call it ancestral

2417
01:46:30,280 --> 01:46:27,260
continuation that's really a DNA sort of

2418
01:46:32,920 --> 01:46:30,290
thing that when you die your soul goes

2419
01:46:35,320 --> 01:46:32,930
up to she baba which is called the

2420
01:46:39,220 --> 01:46:35,330
underworld but really it's the Milky Way

2421
01:46:42,400 --> 01:46:39,230
galaxy very clearly defined as the Milky

2422
01:46:44,620 --> 01:46:42,410
Way galaxy build and that you go to that

2423
01:46:46,750 --> 01:46:44,630
you recycle through that and then you

2424
01:46:52,600 --> 01:46:46,760
get born again for your descendants so

2425
01:46:54,430 --> 01:46:52,610
this is reincarnation then yeah it's a

2426
01:46:56,590 --> 01:46:54,440
bloodline it's a bloodline thing gene in

2427
01:47:02,280 --> 01:46:56,600
other words your reincarnating within

2428
01:47:05,830 --> 01:47:02,290
your bloodline that family or racer what

2429
01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:05,840
okay so therefore if I go my grandfather

2430
01:47:12,580 --> 01:47:10,610
dies his descendant or his grandson or

2431
01:47:16,450 --> 01:47:12,590
great-grandson may have his DNA

2432
01:47:17,500 --> 01:47:16,460
well obviously has a DNA that's clear

2433
01:47:19,810 --> 01:47:17,510
scientific fact

2434
01:47:22,960 --> 01:47:19,820
well also in his you know the spirit of

2435
01:47:25,090 --> 01:47:22,970
who he was and he lived again so it's

2436
01:47:28,120 --> 01:47:25,100
like a genetic memory almost okay so

2437
01:47:31,690 --> 01:47:28,130
therefore I die you know twenty years

2438
01:47:35,590 --> 01:47:31,700
from now some descendant of mine two or

2439
01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:35,600
three generations hence will be me very

2440
01:47:41,800 --> 01:47:38,810
well that's a blessing or a curse

2441
01:47:45,820 --> 01:47:41,810
frankly well I you know it's neither

2442
01:47:49,510 --> 01:47:45,830
because it's all the same thing Minaya

2443
01:47:51,640 --> 01:47:49,520
even back in the classic time you know a

2444
01:47:52,270 --> 01:47:51,650
Maya would have King would have more

2445
01:47:56,350 --> 01:47:52,280
than one

2446
01:47:58,480 --> 01:47:56,360
wonder why well I can only chose from

2447
01:48:01,840 --> 01:47:58,490
the how their families that were

2448
01:48:03,340 --> 01:48:01,850
connected to the priest and and the

2449
01:48:05,800 --> 01:48:03,350
scientist and so forth

2450
01:48:09,880 --> 01:48:05,810
but they would they would have different

2451
01:48:11,530 --> 01:48:09,890
Queens because the Queen's ancestors if

2452
01:48:13,810 --> 01:48:11,540
you would go look at what their

2453
01:48:15,580 --> 01:48:13,820
ancestors created and the portals that

2454
01:48:17,320 --> 01:48:15,590
they created in their kingship and the

2455
01:48:20,980 --> 01:48:17,330
history of their kingship they would be

2456
01:48:23,320 --> 01:48:20,990
known to have qualities and those

2457
01:48:26,440 --> 01:48:23,330
qualities that were found to be positive

2458
01:48:28,780 --> 01:48:26,450
to a king he would marry someone from

2459
01:48:31,300 --> 01:48:28,790
that family bring her in as a queen and

2460
01:48:35,920 --> 01:48:31,310
then if we had to ever deal politically

2461
01:48:38,560 --> 01:48:35,930
or socially or religiously in a certain

2462
01:48:41,740 --> 01:48:38,570
way and didn't have the tools he'd have

2463
01:48:43,780 --> 01:48:41,750
his queen whose ancestor was known to be

2464
01:48:45,820 --> 01:48:43,790
great at a certain thing he would have

2465
01:48:47,920 --> 01:48:45,830
that Queen open a portal so it's like

2466
01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:47,930
selective breeding sort of a

2467
01:48:52,450 --> 01:48:50,090
metaphysical you general she would pull

2468
01:48:55,390 --> 01:48:52,460
the cord through her tongue go into the

2469
01:48:58,750 --> 01:48:55,400
trance open up the portal and let that

2470
01:49:01,300 --> 01:48:58,760
ancestor come through and give her the

2471
01:49:03,970 --> 01:49:01,310
information that the King needs and so

2472
01:49:06,280 --> 01:49:03,980
that so if you look at it there they're

2473
01:49:08,230 --> 01:49:06,290
always having constant communication

2474
01:49:09,760 --> 01:49:08,240
with the ancestors let me ask you a

2475
01:49:13,090 --> 01:49:09,770
question here which goes for larger

2476
01:49:16,270 --> 01:49:13,100
discussion is that why we have people

2477
01:49:19,720 --> 01:49:16,280
who have beliefs belief systems about

2478
01:49:21,190 --> 01:49:19,730
genetic purity because some of that you

2479
01:49:22,720 --> 01:49:21,200
know gets into discrimination you know

2480
01:49:25,300 --> 01:49:22,730
you're marrying somebody from the wrong

2481
01:49:29,260 --> 01:49:25,310
race or the wrong religion its genetic

2482
01:49:31,900 --> 01:49:29,270
purity there are these things I think

2483
01:49:33,910 --> 01:49:31,910
Clifford could tell you yeah Oh Clifford

2484
01:49:37,170 --> 01:49:33,920
house is reflected in Zuni culture in

2485
01:49:41,890 --> 01:49:37,180
public culture what the marryin outside

2486
01:49:44,170 --> 01:49:41,900
yes the granulation shell is also what

2487
01:49:46,210 --> 01:49:44,180
our client relationships are just like

2488
01:49:53,380 --> 01:49:46,220
yeah you don't marry within your own

2489
01:49:54,730 --> 01:49:53,390
clan of course it's incest the Maya

2490
01:49:56,620 --> 01:49:54,740
weren't practicing ancestors

2491
01:49:59,740 --> 01:49:56,630
relationships although they may have I'm

2492
01:50:02,709 --> 01:49:59,750
sure it's um they have very strict clan

2493
01:50:07,420 --> 01:50:02,719
things of who can marry within you

2494
01:50:11,890 --> 01:50:07,430
they also they do not like they are they

2495
01:50:13,570 --> 01:50:11,900
do not really favor marrying gringos are

2496
01:50:16,990 --> 01:50:13,580
being marrying people that are that are

2497
01:50:18,760 --> 01:50:17,000
non-indigenous people that is not it is

2498
01:50:23,800 --> 01:50:18,770
pretty much frowned upon with the Maya

2499
01:50:26,770 --> 01:50:23,810
people well that in in one of our in one

2500
01:50:30,390 --> 01:50:26,780
of our prophecies one of our prophecies

2501
01:50:34,479 --> 01:50:30,400
there was going to be the town hall

2502
01:50:37,630 --> 01:50:34,489
downfall of the Zuni system if the

2503
01:50:42,010 --> 01:50:37,640
members of the tribe went and married

2504
01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:42,020
outside the tribe and we are going

2505
01:50:50,170 --> 01:50:44,770
through that this is already prophesized

2506
01:50:52,090 --> 01:50:50,180
right oh so I knew we were gonna see a

2507
01:50:55,060 --> 01:50:52,100
lot of interesting cultural and

2508
01:50:57,280 --> 01:50:55,070
historical even parallels between the

2509
01:51:00,000 --> 01:50:57,290
North American indigenous cultures and

2510
01:51:02,380 --> 01:51:00,010
in the further south Mesoamerican

2511
01:51:04,720 --> 01:51:02,390
Central American cultures this is a

2512
01:51:09,010 --> 01:51:04,730
fascinating how much there's no there's

2513
01:51:13,150 --> 01:51:09,020
so much proof now the interrelationship

2514
01:51:15,610 --> 01:51:13,160
between all of the worlds of at least of

2515
01:51:17,709 --> 01:51:15,620
the Maya people in Mexico very clear

2516
01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:17,719
relationship with the indigenous people

2517
01:51:23,740 --> 01:51:22,010
in United States that if you just cancel

2518
01:51:25,900 --> 01:51:23,750
the whole border between the two you

2519
01:51:27,850 --> 01:51:25,910
could say well all these people all knew

2520
01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:27,860
each other and they all knew they were

2521
01:51:33,939 --> 01:51:31,610
related they actually found the car

2522
01:51:35,670 --> 01:51:33,949
feathers here in Zuni pots and they

2523
01:51:36,900 --> 01:51:35,680
found turquoise and

2524
01:51:41,110 --> 01:51:36,910
[Music]

2525
01:51:44,709 --> 01:51:41,120
Maya kings and queens so the turquoise

2526
01:51:46,930 --> 01:51:44,719
trailers with a scientific fact they

2527
01:51:49,900 --> 01:51:46,940
brought macaw feathers from Guatemala

2528
01:51:53,770 --> 01:51:49,910
and Kate wasn't Kokopelli a Mayan

2529
01:51:58,990 --> 01:51:53,780
traitor well I've heard I've heard that

2530
01:52:02,080 --> 01:51:59,000
theory yeah well all the tribes mm-hmm

2531
01:52:05,979 --> 01:52:02,090
well you know whatever I just want to

2532
01:52:11,320 --> 01:52:05,989
throw this in because so original or the

2533
01:52:13,959 --> 01:52:11,330
first line people that came to these his

2534
01:52:16,720 --> 01:52:13,969
indigenous tribes what North South and

2535
01:52:19,390 --> 01:52:16,730
Central America Mexico

2536
01:52:23,680 --> 01:52:19,400
that they were not interested in the

2537
01:52:25,720 --> 01:52:23,690
sociological aspects of civilizations

2538
01:52:28,570 --> 01:52:25,730
they were primarily more interested in

2539
01:52:32,620 --> 01:52:28,580
see how much they can rip off a lot of

2540
01:52:35,170 --> 01:52:32,630
people and so in so doing it's just I

2541
01:52:38,440 --> 01:52:35,180
get the conquer things of the wars of

2542
01:52:41,950 --> 01:52:38,450
recent times also is it now I want

2543
01:52:45,160 --> 01:52:41,960
anybody to have that that knowledge so

2544
01:52:48,750 --> 01:52:45,170
they destroy it all of them and we knew

2545
01:52:52,060 --> 01:52:48,760
about where the Pueblo people knew about

2546
01:52:56,080 --> 01:52:52,070
incest because that's what our Katrina

2547
01:52:57,910 --> 01:52:56,090
clowns are all about and we also know we

2548
01:53:00,940 --> 01:52:57,920
have the shallow cold ceremony which is

2549
01:53:03,540 --> 01:53:00,950
the coming of the spaceships which

2550
01:53:06,910 --> 01:53:03,550
brought all the civilization requirement

2551
01:53:10,240 --> 01:53:06,920
requirement and when you go back as far

2552
01:53:13,630 --> 01:53:10,250
as the Chaco culture appear in northern

2553
01:53:17,350 --> 01:53:13,640
New Mexico there was a crossroads of

2554
01:53:22,720 --> 01:53:17,360
many different tribes and also he was I

2555
01:53:25,690 --> 01:53:22,730
call it the Universal College of

2556
01:53:29,650 --> 01:53:25,700
medicinal and spiritual arts which were

2557
01:53:32,590 --> 01:53:29,660
also direct contact with a space before

2558
01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:32,600
that great Kiva that they it's a

2559
01:53:39,070 --> 01:53:37,010
misnomer it was not a Kiva does a lot we

2560
01:53:42,100 --> 01:53:39,080
have a lot of landing spots over here

2561
01:53:44,920 --> 01:53:42,110
within our own village over here so if

2562
01:53:47,890 --> 01:53:44,930
they had only listened to the original

2563
01:53:49,690 --> 01:53:47,900
the original explorers or come over they

2564
01:53:52,260 --> 01:53:49,700
would have done this knowledge quite

2565
01:53:54,910 --> 01:53:52,270
simply but that was not the case another

2566
01:53:57,340 --> 01:53:54,920
most of it is gone and we know remnants

2567
01:54:00,520 --> 01:53:57,350
of it especially some people like myself

2568
01:54:03,850 --> 01:54:00,530
that has studied under the grandfather's

2569
01:54:06,720 --> 01:54:03,860
so that that in itself is a clue I never

2570
01:54:09,160 --> 01:54:06,730
never thought about Pueblo Bonito

2571
01:54:10,600 --> 01:54:09,170
possibly being a giant landing spot but

2572
01:54:18,070 --> 01:54:10,610
it would make sense if you've ever been

2573
01:54:19,750 --> 01:54:18,080
there yeah and there's all those lines

2574
01:54:22,180 --> 01:54:19,760
that direct it's almost like a landing

2575
01:54:26,290 --> 01:54:22,190
strip all these lines are going into

2576
01:54:28,479 --> 01:54:26,300
Chaco Canyon well that's kind of getting

2577
01:54:31,179 --> 01:54:28,489
off topic here a little

2578
01:54:33,609 --> 01:54:31,189
but let's pursue that do you think that

2579
01:54:35,379 --> 01:54:33,619
there is some chance so we're gonna see

2580
01:54:38,469 --> 01:54:35,389
these star beings these Kachinas coming

2581
01:54:42,129 --> 01:54:38,479
back during some sort of end time period

2582
01:54:42,639 --> 01:54:42,139
for whatever reason well the last two

2583
01:54:45,099 --> 01:54:42,649
nights

2584
01:54:47,829 --> 01:54:45,109
just the last two nation I have been

2585
01:54:51,219 --> 01:54:47,839
talking to the three elders and they

2586
01:54:54,399 --> 01:54:51,229
have actually observed what they termed

2587
01:54:57,639 --> 01:54:54,409
the Kachinas throughout the parts of the

2588
01:55:00,520 --> 01:54:57,649
world and I'm not sure exactly how they

2589
01:55:02,229 --> 01:55:00,530
got about when about finding this out

2590
01:55:05,909 --> 01:55:02,239
because it's very difficult when you

2591
01:55:08,770 --> 01:55:05,919
talk to those people up in Canada on a

2592
01:55:10,419 --> 01:55:08,780
telephone network okay well let's get

2593
01:55:12,219 --> 01:55:10,429
into more of this Clifford in our next

2594
01:55:13,839 --> 01:55:12,229
segment by the way there are lots of

2595
01:55:15,699 --> 01:55:13,849
ways to contact us here at the power

2596
01:55:18,310 --> 01:55:15,709
cast you can write us Neil was at the

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2656
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2658
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including Brendan O'Brien and Johnny

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Chanel of Maya sites travel service and

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what they offer and maybe you'll want to

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take one of those trips sounds

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fascinating in clifford mahooty a Zuni

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elder Clifford

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you started something and I know maybe

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we're disrespectful and we have to do

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those breaks but you understand why we

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have to do them so you're about to start

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a discussion would you want to continue

2730
02:00:43,270 --> 02:00:41,660
yeah this is interesting

2731
02:00:46,570 --> 02:00:43,280
we're talking about the Mount Maya

2732
02:00:49,210 --> 02:00:46,580
connection it's quite simply that we are

2733
02:00:52,240 --> 02:00:49,220
all related the only thing that if you

2734
02:00:54,070 --> 02:00:52,250
look at it from the specialty department

2735
02:00:56,260 --> 02:00:54,080
you look at a medical organization

2736
02:00:58,360 --> 02:00:56,270
you've got your dentist

2737
02:01:00,790 --> 02:00:58,370
you've got your pharmacies you got your

2738
02:01:04,030 --> 02:01:00,800
surgeons you get your chiropractors and

2739
02:01:07,060 --> 02:01:04,040
all that but in the in the beginning of

2740
02:01:09,330 --> 02:01:07,070
the the peoples from different parts of

2741
02:01:12,670 --> 02:01:09,340
the world were given certain duties and

2742
02:01:14,320 --> 02:01:12,680
responsibilities for them for that part

2743
02:01:16,390 --> 02:01:14,330
of the world that they were going

2744
02:01:19,090 --> 02:01:16,400
through and this was again the space

2745
02:01:21,880 --> 02:01:19,100
brother connection and in order to keep

2746
02:01:24,990 --> 02:01:21,890
the world in balance now when we go all

2747
02:01:28,630 --> 02:01:25,000
the way up to you and clear up to there

2748
02:01:31,180 --> 02:01:28,640
probably about Utah and in Colorado and

2749
02:01:35,950 --> 02:01:31,190
down to Arizona Mexico and clear down to

2750
02:01:38,680 --> 02:01:35,960
South America if you if you really talk

2751
02:01:40,540 --> 02:01:38,690
to those ancient shaman they will tell

2752
02:01:43,090 --> 02:01:40,550
you that they're all canned we are all

2753
02:01:46,240 --> 02:01:43,100
connected together the only difference

2754
02:01:49,270 --> 02:01:46,250
is was the language but there's now

2755
02:01:52,300 --> 02:01:49,280
there's now uncovering of languages that

2756
02:01:54,820 --> 02:01:52,310
were very similar those in Genesis

2757
02:01:58,330 --> 02:01:54,830
over there I got a report from one of

2758
02:01:59,800 --> 02:01:58,340
the the ladies up in one of the pueblos

2759
02:02:02,620 --> 02:01:59,810
is called a key one of the key reasons

2760
02:02:05,890 --> 02:02:02,630
which is the language went down to I

2761
02:02:08,650 --> 02:02:05,900
believe he was found in Mexico or in

2762
02:02:10,120 --> 02:02:08,660
that area and he was listen to the kids

2763
02:02:11,830 --> 02:02:10,130
playing out there in the yard the

2764
02:02:13,870 --> 02:02:11,840
indigenous kids and they were speaking

2765
02:02:16,090 --> 02:02:13,880
at the same language that they pick up

2766
02:02:18,430 --> 02:02:16,100
there we were also talking before there

2767
02:02:20,710 --> 02:02:18,440
a couple of days ago you would spoke

2768
02:02:22,840 --> 02:02:20,720
with three elders about some sort of a

2769
02:02:24,070 --> 02:02:22,850
potential arrival or something that you

2770
02:02:27,550 --> 02:02:24,080
didn't really get a chance to finish

2771
02:02:31,090 --> 02:02:27,560
that that's all that's the there where

2772
02:02:34,510 --> 02:02:31,100
they Hopi Blue Star Kachina myths they

2773
02:02:38,680 --> 02:02:34,520
call it remember that the Robert Robert

2774
02:02:40,390 --> 02:02:38,690
morning's guy and then the other thing

2775
02:02:43,330 --> 02:02:40,400
too that's happening that they told me

2776
02:02:46,840 --> 02:02:43,340
is that there's a red star and a blue

2777
02:02:49,150 --> 02:02:46,850
star sons that are coming in that you

2778
02:02:53,890 --> 02:02:49,160
can see it three or four o'clock in them

2779
02:02:56,920 --> 02:02:53,900
in the morning towards looking for four

2780
02:02:58,330 --> 02:02:56,930
from Dallas Texas and that's what they

2781
02:03:00,760 --> 02:02:58,340
were discussing but I didn't get a

2782
02:03:02,620 --> 02:03:00,770
chance to hear the whole story on it but

2783
02:03:04,420 --> 02:03:02,630
it's got a news blackout you know you

2784
02:03:06,130 --> 02:03:04,430
might want to chase that down they're

2785
02:03:07,960 --> 02:03:06,140
gonna film it well yeah it sounds like

2786
02:03:09,340 --> 02:03:07,970
it sounds like you know Venus and

2787
02:03:13,300 --> 02:03:09,350
Jupiter and the night sky followed

2788
02:03:14,790 --> 02:03:13,310
closely by Mars no that's a different

2789
02:03:19,000 --> 02:03:14,800
one because I can see Venus and Jupiter

2790
02:03:21,370 --> 02:03:19,010
above my house right and so this is this

2791
02:03:24,130 --> 02:03:21,380
is a connection that they're looking for

2792
02:03:27,190 --> 02:03:24,140
which was prophesized among all the

2793
02:03:28,930 --> 02:03:27,200
indigenous tribes of course hope he was

2794
02:03:33,670 --> 02:03:28,940
the one that took off later with a blue

2795
02:03:38,620 --> 02:03:33,680
star Blue Star prophecy many many years

2796
02:03:41,680 --> 02:03:38,630
ago but this is far more involved and

2797
02:03:45,940 --> 02:03:41,690
and then then what we originally thought

2798
02:03:49,450 --> 02:03:45,950
it was but there's just now if you look

2799
02:03:51,720 --> 02:03:49,460
at the Mayan people and the Incas and

2800
02:03:54,310 --> 02:03:51,730
those other people that they had

2801
02:03:58,080 --> 02:03:54,320
back-and-forth communication wait long

2802
02:04:01,660 --> 02:03:58,090
time ago not only on trade but also on

2803
02:04:03,490 --> 02:04:01,670
the shamanic practices the different

2804
02:04:06,230 --> 02:04:03,500
types of herbs that different type of

2805
02:04:09,380 --> 02:04:06,240
travel and I was told at one time by

2806
02:04:11,120 --> 02:04:09,390
a very high medicine order man from one

2807
02:04:16,100 --> 02:04:11,130
of the pueblos that they actually used

2808
02:04:17,390 --> 02:04:16,110
to transport themselves through I don't

2809
02:04:20,270 --> 02:04:17,400
know how they did it

2810
02:04:22,250 --> 02:04:20,280
in the old days I think that I think

2811
02:04:24,580 --> 02:04:22,260
when they took away those altars and

2812
02:04:26,810 --> 02:04:24,590
those those chambers like my physical

2813
02:04:30,860 --> 02:04:26,820
teleportation preferred are you talking

2814
02:04:36,350 --> 02:04:30,870
physically a teleporter yeah the Maya

2815
02:04:40,160 --> 02:04:36,360
have that they used to know how to do

2816
02:04:43,100 --> 02:04:40,170
that well we had that until again when

2817
02:04:47,540 --> 02:04:43,110
they took away our altars for they and

2818
02:04:50,330 --> 02:04:47,550
they also did away with the stargates

2819
02:04:53,060 --> 02:04:50,340
where they're actually the government

2820
02:04:56,900 --> 02:04:53,070
federal government filled in those

2821
02:04:59,090 --> 02:04:56,910
places where they had these portals the

2822
02:05:00,530 --> 02:04:59,100
one that's remained in it's hidden from

2823
02:05:03,380 --> 02:05:00,540
everybody as of course they probably

2824
02:05:06,110 --> 02:05:03,390
know it's right above the Los Alamos

2825
02:05:08,990 --> 02:05:06,120
nuclear laughs it's that teleportation

2826
02:05:11,540 --> 02:05:09,000
Center for all the medicinal medicinal

2827
02:05:14,330 --> 02:05:11,550
orders and it's in the bandolier

2828
02:05:16,880 --> 02:05:14,340
National Park let me ask you a question

2829
02:05:18,920 --> 02:05:16,890
here this is a stupid question okay but

2830
02:05:21,800 --> 02:05:18,930
it's okay I know how to do that this is

2831
02:05:23,990 --> 02:05:21,810
a stupid question that is when ever I

2832
02:05:26,510 --> 02:05:24,000
hear the word Stargate I'm only thinking

2833
02:05:28,640 --> 02:05:26,520
of that TV show in the movie about

2834
02:05:32,330 --> 02:05:28,650
having this gigantic device that lets

2835
02:05:35,240 --> 02:05:32,340
you dimensionally transport or go

2836
02:05:37,940 --> 02:05:35,250
through a warp field to go to another

2837
02:05:40,130 --> 02:05:37,950
reality or another planet the reason

2838
02:05:42,980 --> 02:05:40,140
that we call it a Stargate is for lack

2839
02:05:46,040 --> 02:05:42,990
of better better interpreters you got to

2840
02:05:48,430 --> 02:05:46,050
understand that we have our ancient

2841
02:05:51,560 --> 02:05:48,440
language that we still still speak and

2842
02:05:57,020 --> 02:05:51,570
there's it's very difficult to interpret

2843
02:05:58,640 --> 02:05:57,030
those type of happenings so it's easier

2844
02:06:00,950 --> 02:05:58,650
just to say well you know everybody

2845
02:06:03,440 --> 02:06:00,960
knows what a Stargate is or equivalent

2846
02:06:06,200 --> 02:06:03,450
to it but it's far more than that they

2847
02:06:10,100 --> 02:06:06,210
will be like you will be like a tornado

2848
02:06:12,410 --> 02:06:10,110
twister twister spilling on itself and

2849
02:06:15,380 --> 02:06:12,420
then all of a sudden it just opens up a

2850
02:06:17,510 --> 02:06:15,390
vortex and there's a senior that goes on

2851
02:06:20,090 --> 02:06:17,520
there and that's the way it's been

2852
02:06:22,730 --> 02:06:20,100
described to me I personally haven't

2853
02:06:26,210 --> 02:06:22,740
one but that's what they tell me my

2854
02:06:30,410 --> 02:06:26,220
younger brother went to that Zuni heaven

2855
02:06:32,990 --> 02:06:30,420
and he saw their way back in 1975 so he

2856
02:06:36,560 --> 02:06:33,000
knows about what goes on and he also saw

2857
02:06:40,400 --> 02:06:36,570
the the Challenger which happened what

2858
02:06:43,010 --> 02:06:40,410
eight years after that but these are for

2859
02:06:46,790 --> 02:06:43,020
lack of a better term because the white

2860
02:06:49,700 --> 02:06:46,800
man always uses that term it's each

2861
02:06:52,340 --> 02:06:49,710
tribe has their own way of saying it in

2862
02:06:56,420 --> 02:06:52,350
their own language so it sounds like the

2863
02:06:58,640 --> 02:06:56,430
Mayan portal I've been describing well

2864
02:07:01,790 --> 02:06:58,650
they're portals they're portals is what

2865
02:07:05,180 --> 02:07:01,800
they are and depending on which order in

2866
02:07:06,830 --> 02:07:05,190
this case it's the Cochino order because

2867
02:07:08,930 --> 02:07:06,840
it's right there in the home of the

2868
02:07:12,890 --> 02:07:08,940
Kachina and that's where we go and we

2869
02:07:16,280 --> 02:07:12,900
die and there we have s Kachina we come

2870
02:07:18,380 --> 02:07:16,290
back as Kachinas and our purpose when we

2871
02:07:23,510 --> 02:07:18,390
come back is to bring the rain and all

2872
02:07:26,540 --> 02:07:23,520
the the food to serve the people of my

2873
02:07:28,970 --> 02:07:26,550
tribe here not only of my tribe only but

2874
02:07:30,860 --> 02:07:28,980
the rest of the other peoples and all

2875
02:07:33,980 --> 02:07:30,870
the indigenous people throughout the

2876
02:07:36,830 --> 02:07:33,990
world which includes the people from

2877
02:07:40,250 --> 02:07:36,840
Mexico includes the people from South

2878
02:07:43,190 --> 02:07:40,260
America because we are all brothers and

2879
02:07:45,530 --> 02:07:43,200
we're all related and that's the way you

2880
02:07:48,680 --> 02:07:45,540
are set up from the beginning the reason

2881
02:07:50,930 --> 02:07:48,690
that it's lost is because those again

2882
02:07:53,720 --> 02:07:50,940
because of barriers that they put by

2883
02:07:55,220 --> 02:07:53,730
borders and other government set up that

2884
02:07:58,070 --> 02:07:55,230
so we don't talk to each other anymore

2885
02:08:00,440 --> 02:07:58,080
there's still some shaman that actually

2886
02:08:02,570 --> 02:08:00,450
go from Canada through down to South

2887
02:08:04,790 --> 02:08:02,580
America and they actually don't they

2888
02:08:08,090 --> 02:08:04,800
don't use any airlines they don't use

2889
02:08:11,120 --> 02:08:08,100
any buses trains or anything they just

2890
02:08:13,820 --> 02:08:11,130
walk hey we have a all-star discussion

2891
02:08:15,890 --> 02:08:13,830
of Mayan legends Indian legends and lots

2892
02:08:24,260 --> 02:08:15,900
more you're with Gene you're with Chris

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the same light as a real television so

2928
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from outside it looks like someone is

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home watching TV fake TV plugs in just

2930
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like a lamp on a timer

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but as far more convincing to burglars

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fake TV deters burglars cost far less

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than an alarm and is highly recommended

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by numerous police departments use it

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suffer from low functioning adrenal or

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thyroid did you know that mercury from

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teeth both as a vapor and as particles

2949
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into your body

2950
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wherever mercury deposits in your body

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animal studies show that mercury causes

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kidney function to drop by 60% mercury

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deposited into your adrenals or thyroid

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grass-fed cows after investigating most

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9:08 6 9 1 2 608 today hello this is for

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02:12:46,560 --> 02:12:43,990
us my ellen guiley and you're listening

2996
02:12:52,950 --> 02:12:46,570
to the podcast the gold standard of

2997
02:12:55,800 --> 02:12:52,960
paranormal radio here with Jeanne and

2998
02:12:58,200 --> 02:12:55,810
Chris on the para Cass exploring Mayan

2999
02:13:01,890 --> 02:12:58,210
legends and more our guests will include

3000
02:13:03,870 --> 02:13:01,900
Brendan O'Brien Gianni Chanel and

3001
02:13:05,160 --> 02:13:03,880
clifford mahooty Johnny you had a

3002
02:13:07,560 --> 02:13:05,170
comment you wanted to make before we

3003
02:13:10,850 --> 02:13:07,570
continue go ahead please I was gonna say

3004
02:13:14,160 --> 02:13:10,860
that one of the things that is

3005
02:13:18,030 --> 02:13:14,170
challenging in understanding the way

3006
02:13:22,230 --> 02:13:18,040
that the Maya mind works is that they do

3007
02:13:25,290 --> 02:13:22,240
not you time as a straight linear thing

3008
02:13:27,690 --> 02:13:25,300
the way that we do one thing happens in

3009
02:13:30,990 --> 02:13:27,700
another and then another for them time

3010
02:13:34,520 --> 02:13:31,000
is more like a mobius strip that floats

3011
02:13:37,800 --> 02:13:34,530
back into itself and continues on and

3012
02:13:40,170 --> 02:13:37,810
that our consciousness is sort of like

3013
02:13:43,230 --> 02:13:40,180
the place where the mobius strip meets

3014
02:13:45,120 --> 02:13:43,240
in the middle and that the other thing

3015
02:13:47,640 --> 02:13:45,130
to spin off of it are the past in the

3016
02:13:49,950 --> 02:13:47,650
future but our present moment is that

3017
02:13:51,570 --> 02:13:49,960
one thing but there's also the past of

3018
02:13:54,120 --> 02:13:51,580
the future and that they're all

3019
02:13:56,580 --> 02:13:54,130
intertwined does that apply to some

3020
02:13:58,560 --> 02:13:56,590
extent that our vision of the past and

3021
02:14:01,170 --> 02:13:58,570
the future and the present as a matter

3022
02:14:03,780 --> 02:14:01,180
of fact it's all an illusion the first

3023
02:14:06,150 --> 02:14:03,790
conclusion that we want to make of that

3024
02:14:08,190 --> 02:14:06,160
is that it's all an illusion that's

3025
02:14:09,930 --> 02:14:08,200
autumn to automatically and everybody's

3026
02:14:13,080 --> 02:14:09,940
the first place everybody wants to go as

3027
02:14:16,640 --> 02:14:13,090
well that it's all an illusion no not

3028
02:14:21,420 --> 02:14:16,650
all an illusion a matter of perception

3029
02:14:24,630 --> 02:14:21,430
if we if we were to have the ability to

3030
02:14:26,640 --> 02:14:24,640
perceive everything in the past and

3031
02:14:28,650 --> 02:14:26,650
everything in the future at the same

3032
02:14:31,470 --> 02:14:28,660
time we're in the present moment we

3033
02:14:36,440 --> 02:14:31,480
would probably go insane we have to

3034
02:14:38,880 --> 02:14:36,450
filter out what we can actually take in

3035
02:14:42,950 --> 02:14:38,890
medicine people medicine people don't

3036
02:14:45,879 --> 02:14:42,960
have to do that so that's the reason why

3037
02:14:50,200 --> 02:14:45,889
when the people that

3038
02:14:51,609 --> 02:14:50,210
the premonitions and prophecies that

3039
02:14:53,729 --> 02:14:51,619
about things that are going to happen in

3040
02:14:57,280 --> 02:14:53,739
the future like Clifford was saying

3041
02:15:00,970 --> 02:14:57,290
people saw 9/11 someone saw the

3042
02:15:04,240 --> 02:15:00,980
Challenger that accident those are

3043
02:15:07,359 --> 02:15:04,250
places where medicine people can flip

3044
02:15:09,879 --> 02:15:07,369
through that crack and go into the other

3045
02:15:11,709 --> 02:15:09,889
dimension and pull out something that's

3046
02:15:14,290 --> 02:15:11,719
going to happen in the future no is that

3047
02:15:16,209 --> 02:15:14,300
the same thing by the way as psychics

3048
02:15:19,510 --> 02:15:16,219
who claim they can see the future it's

3049
02:15:21,189 --> 02:15:19,520
not just people who are indigenous there

3050
02:15:23,890 --> 02:15:21,199
are people that actually can do that

3051
02:15:25,419 --> 02:15:23,900
date there's all kinds of methods that

3052
02:15:27,700 --> 02:15:25,429
you know if you follow a spiritual

3053
02:15:29,740 --> 02:15:27,710
practice that you can get to that point

3054
02:15:33,280 --> 02:15:29,750
where you where you actually have that

3055
02:15:35,740 --> 02:15:33,290
perception of what time really the real

3056
02:15:40,959 --> 02:15:35,750
nature of time well thank you another

3057
02:15:43,899 --> 02:15:40,969
question here real perception of time he

3058
02:15:47,560 --> 02:15:43,909
makes makes them completely different in

3059
02:15:51,879 --> 02:15:47,570
terms of the way that we look that we're

3060
02:15:53,740 --> 02:15:51,889
looking at December 21 2012 but then any

3061
02:15:56,229 --> 02:15:53,750
of these people actually foresee for

3062
02:15:59,859 --> 02:15:56,239
example that when Apple stock price was

3063
02:16:02,800 --> 02:15:59,869
$10 a share it would be nearly $600 a

3064
02:16:07,930 --> 02:16:02,810
share or they all believed in using that

3065
02:16:09,939 --> 02:16:07,940
knowledge for financial guys do that

3066
02:16:12,520 --> 02:16:09,949
more than that they probably control

3067
02:16:14,859 --> 02:16:12,530
that price just like when Catholics

3068
02:16:16,689 --> 02:16:14,869
dying they're put in the ground and a

3069
02:16:19,060 --> 02:16:16,699
big piece of granite is stuck over their

3070
02:16:21,189 --> 02:16:19,070
head the church is turning them into a

3071
02:16:23,410 --> 02:16:21,199
battery and they've been pre conditioned

3072
02:16:25,720 --> 02:16:23,420
to be the battery by being told when

3073
02:16:27,700 --> 02:16:25,730
they die they're gonna lay there and

3074
02:16:30,640 --> 02:16:27,710
tell the horns of jubilation and that

3075
02:16:32,410 --> 02:16:30,650
keeps their soul and their battery power

3076
02:16:34,360 --> 02:16:32,420
fixed under that piece of granite

3077
02:16:36,580 --> 02:16:34,370
battery what do you mean by battery

3078
02:16:38,290 --> 02:16:36,590
human batteries the church actually

3079
02:16:40,089 --> 02:16:38,300
cultivate Souls

3080
02:16:43,000 --> 02:16:40,099
and used them as batteries that's where

3081
02:16:45,310 --> 02:16:43,010
they put granite gravestones on their

3082
02:16:47,889 --> 02:16:45,320
head and put the body underneath the

3083
02:16:49,330 --> 02:16:47,899
gravestone and indoctrinate them before

3084
02:16:51,219 --> 02:16:49,340
they died that they're going to be in

3085
02:16:55,450 --> 02:16:51,229
that place till the horns of jubilation

3086
02:16:58,540 --> 02:16:55,460
this is black magic and I'm sure people

3087
02:16:59,470 --> 02:16:58,550
Wow and up those mechanisms and do those

3088
02:17:02,400 --> 02:16:59,480
things

3089
02:17:04,210 --> 02:17:02,410
are going through portals and are

3090
02:17:07,570 --> 02:17:04,220
forecasting and being a part of

3091
02:17:09,340 --> 02:17:07,580
manipulating the future and and they're

3092
02:17:12,340 --> 02:17:09,350
there and they're in every community and

3093
02:17:14,291 --> 02:17:12,350
I'm sure the indigenous communities have

3094
02:17:17,470 --> 02:17:14,301
those stories about the black

3095
02:17:19,720 --> 02:17:17,480
Brotherhood I that I thought really did

3096
02:17:22,240 --> 02:17:19,730
I needed to stay during this - was that

3097
02:17:24,550 --> 02:17:22,250
in terms of people thinking that it's

3098
02:17:26,170 --> 02:17:24,560
the end of the calendar what makes the

3099
02:17:29,201 --> 02:17:26,180
Mayan calendar so beautiful is that

3100
02:17:32,440 --> 02:17:29,211
therein is no end it has a decimal and

3101
02:17:35,411 --> 02:17:32,450
it keeps going they they take groups of

3102
02:17:37,180 --> 02:17:35,421
numbers so that for us we don't like to

3103
02:17:39,070 --> 02:17:37,190
say 1 million two hundred fifty six

3104
02:17:42,190 --> 02:17:39,080
thousand seven hundred and eighty-six

3105
02:17:44,590 --> 02:17:42,200
they can merely say three baktuns to

3106
02:17:47,980 --> 02:17:44,600
count UN's and it makes it a simpler

3107
02:17:49,451 --> 02:17:47,990
counting system in terms of them saying

3108
02:17:52,990 --> 02:17:49,461
it's the end of the world meaning we're

3109
02:17:54,510 --> 02:17:53,000
all gone they will know that's explained

3110
02:17:59,350 --> 02:17:54,520
in Palenque

3111
02:18:03,880 --> 02:17:59,360
there's writing in stone that the Maya

3112
02:18:06,701 --> 02:18:03,890
did that said a call will be exalted by

3113
02:18:10,180 --> 02:18:06,711
the world and the date equals two

3114
02:18:13,060 --> 02:18:10,190
hundred and fifty some thousand ad so if

3115
02:18:15,310 --> 02:18:13,070
the politically exalted by the world why

3116
02:18:17,710 --> 02:18:15,320
would they have a date so far into the

3117
02:18:20,430 --> 02:18:17,720
future the correction britain the date

3118
02:18:23,020 --> 02:18:20,440
in the future is at four seven seven two

3119
02:18:24,820 --> 02:18:23,030
seven two right and Khobar there's a

3120
02:18:26,740 --> 02:18:24,830
further date a couple thousand years

3121
02:18:28,420 --> 02:18:26,750
from now yeah you'll be you'll be

3122
02:18:30,780 --> 02:18:28,430
celebrated but there are something to go

3123
02:18:34,240 --> 02:18:30,790
way into the future

3124
02:18:36,041 --> 02:18:34,250
calculations that that show that they

3125
02:18:37,110 --> 02:18:36,051
didn't think it was going to be the end

3126
02:18:39,280 --> 02:18:37,120
of the world

3127
02:18:41,470 --> 02:18:39,290
because they're talking about things

3128
02:18:43,541 --> 02:18:41,480
that are going to go happen much further

3129
02:18:45,070 --> 02:18:43,551
into the next Bakhtin alright so the

3130
02:18:48,460 --> 02:18:45,080
world's not going to end this year i

3131
02:18:51,041 --> 02:18:48,470
could look forward with comfort into as

3132
02:18:53,440 --> 02:18:51,051
long as I'm around being able to see a

3133
02:18:56,201 --> 02:18:53,450
real future to put on the Maya calendar

3134
02:18:58,990 --> 02:18:56,211
I understand it because there's so many

3135
02:19:01,420 --> 02:18:59,000
doomsday prophecies and it is the end of

3136
02:19:04,030 --> 02:19:01,430
the Kali Yuga it's the end of the Kali

3137
02:19:07,480 --> 02:19:04,040
Yuga and that's the end of a calendar

3138
02:19:12,000 --> 02:19:07,490
it's the end of a Maya calendar Native

3139
02:19:13,150 --> 02:19:12,010
Americans calendar is I'm twenty are oh

3140
02:19:16,450 --> 02:19:13,160
yeah

3141
02:19:20,919 --> 02:19:16,460
so it does seem like this knowledge was

3142
02:19:23,320 --> 02:19:20,929
spread out you know throughout all the

3143
02:19:25,300 --> 02:19:23,330
communities of the world because all

3144
02:19:27,790 --> 02:19:25,310
these calendars seem to coincide was

3145
02:19:29,830 --> 02:19:27,800
basically on their end date times for

3146
02:19:32,709 --> 02:19:29,840
that calendar and then again the Mayans

3147
02:19:35,080 --> 02:19:32,719
start again one two from that boxing

3148
02:19:37,930 --> 02:19:35,090
they get to the next boxing to see what

3149
02:19:39,700 --> 02:19:37,940
I mean so it's just it makes it's an end

3150
02:19:41,350 --> 02:19:39,710
of a giant cycle you brought up

3151
02:19:43,750 --> 02:19:41,360
something earlier that is very

3152
02:19:46,570 --> 02:19:43,760
intriguing to me about about the dark

3153
02:19:49,841 --> 02:19:46,580
adapts and and the dark dark of black

3154
02:19:52,180 --> 02:19:49,851
magic and I wanted to mention to to

3155
02:19:54,220 --> 02:19:52,190
Clifford a very interesting thing that

3156
02:19:56,350 --> 02:19:54,230
grandfather martin gerschwitz amo told

3157
02:19:58,420 --> 02:19:56,360
me when he stayed at my house and if

3158
02:20:01,930 --> 02:19:58,430
urgently for a week a number of years

3159
02:20:04,990 --> 02:20:01,940
ago and he said that that though in his

3160
02:20:07,030 --> 02:20:05,000
interpretation of things that the earth

3161
02:20:10,000 --> 02:20:07,040
should probably already have gone

3162
02:20:12,310 --> 02:20:10,010
through these cataclysmic changes he

3163
02:20:13,570 --> 02:20:12,320
said they should have come early and he

3164
02:20:15,070 --> 02:20:13,580
said that the only reason why they

3165
02:20:17,980 --> 02:20:15,080
hadn't come is because they were being

3166
02:20:20,020 --> 02:20:17,990
held in check by black magic and he used

3167
02:20:21,610 --> 02:20:20,030
that term black magic he said the reason

3168
02:20:23,680 --> 02:20:21,620
why we haven't gone through the changes

3169
02:20:26,761 --> 02:20:23,690
is because they're holding off the

3170
02:20:29,980 --> 02:20:26,771
inevitable which I found very intriguing

3171
02:20:32,650 --> 02:20:29,990
and Clifford I think we described

3172
02:20:36,040 --> 02:20:32,660
there's really no better way to say it

3173
02:20:38,890 --> 02:20:36,050
in Stargate or portal I agree with them

3174
02:20:43,301 --> 02:20:38,900
but I you know it's it would have to be

3175
02:20:46,570 --> 02:20:43,311
obvious to I think our Easter in the

3176
02:20:49,450 --> 02:20:46,580
West that there is there is no

3177
02:20:51,761 --> 02:20:49,460
conspiracy number one that basically in

3178
02:20:56,500 --> 02:20:51,771
the past 20 years everything has been in

3179
02:20:58,360 --> 02:20:56,510
our face Bush didn't lie and he said

3180
02:21:00,610 --> 02:20:58,370
we're going to come in and we're gonna

3181
02:21:02,860 --> 02:21:00,620
make the rich richer and we're going to

3182
02:21:04,900 --> 02:21:02,870
do it by any means necessary and you get

3183
02:21:08,140 --> 02:21:04,910
it and everyone stood there it was there

3184
02:21:10,330 --> 02:21:08,150
was no conspiracy but beyond these type

3185
02:21:13,860 --> 02:21:10,340
of people who are petty tyrants and

3186
02:21:17,080 --> 02:21:13,870
petty rulers or rulers for profit

3187
02:21:19,830 --> 02:21:17,090
they're they're not the black brothers

3188
02:21:22,390 --> 02:21:19,840
the black brothers versus field

3189
02:21:25,060 --> 02:21:22,400
these are puppets of the black brothers

3190
02:21:26,650 --> 02:21:25,070
but they are out there and and and they

3191
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take many forms

3192
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and it pops to the surface I think we've

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Americans get all their toys they get

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things to look at and to play with they

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let's ask Clifford what he thinks about

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that I think that's a really interesting

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about all those things are there to

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fixate consciousness away from truth

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away from what's really happening in

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that maybe they're using this to mollify

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3318
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3319
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believing exploring Mayan mysteries

3320
02:26:57,360 --> 02:26:55,971
indigenous peoples legends about the

3321
02:27:00,251 --> 02:26:57,370
possible end of the world about

3322
02:27:01,781 --> 02:27:00,261
controlling the populace so well we

3323
02:27:04,301 --> 02:27:01,791
don't look we don't look beneath the

3324
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surface because we're happy with our

3325
02:27:08,230 --> 02:27:07,610
iPads and our flat panel TVs and all

3326
02:27:09,581 --> 02:27:08,240
that stuff

3327
02:27:12,161 --> 02:27:09,591
we have Brendan O'Brien and Gianni

3328
02:27:14,980 --> 02:27:12,171
Chanel of the Maya sites travel service

3329
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and clifford mahooty a Zuni elder Ren

3330
02:27:18,940 --> 02:27:16,881
Dhin you were about to start a further

3331
02:27:23,831 --> 02:27:18,950
discussion before I had to do the break

3332
02:27:26,831 --> 02:27:23,841
let's go but I think again I do think

3333
02:27:29,831 --> 02:27:26,841
that there that there's some sort of

3334
02:27:32,201 --> 02:27:29,841
awakening that happens and it's kind of

3335
02:27:35,020 --> 02:27:32,211
like a hundredth monkey thing and I

3336
02:27:38,461 --> 02:27:35,030
think that maybe the mechanisms that are

3337
02:27:41,411 --> 02:27:38,471
being explored at least with the Maya

3338
02:27:44,801 --> 02:27:41,421
ideas and some of the mysteries aroused

3339
02:27:46,930 --> 02:27:44,811
them and and people you know wanting an

3340
02:27:49,541 --> 02:27:46,940
answer wanting something everyone was

3341
02:27:52,360 --> 02:27:49,551
needing to focus on one thing and that

3342
02:27:54,940 --> 02:27:52,370
mean that's not necessarily being

3343
02:27:57,520 --> 02:27:54,950
negative it may be something that indeed

3344
02:28:00,610 --> 02:27:57,530
helps us all come to understanding so

3345
02:28:02,650 --> 02:28:00,620
like I didn't agree with was there glows

3346
02:28:05,201 --> 02:28:02,660
on just about all of his stuff and where

3347
02:28:07,091 --> 02:28:05,211
he got it but then there's another part

3348
02:28:10,511 --> 02:28:07,101
of me that respects the man immensely

3349
02:28:13,571 --> 02:28:10,521
for what he was able to do in terms of

3350
02:28:15,881 --> 02:28:13,581
human consciousness and raising people a

3351
02:28:18,341 --> 02:28:15,891
little bit higher up than they were

3352
02:28:20,051 --> 02:28:18,351
before he came along and and I just

3353
02:28:22,631 --> 02:28:20,061
think that maybe this Maya thing might

3354
02:28:25,180 --> 02:28:22,641
be a mechanism for all of us to ask

3355
02:28:28,150 --> 02:28:25,190
questions and to be curious about our

3356
02:28:29,621 --> 02:28:28,160
future and to make us say well why would

3357
02:28:32,801 --> 02:28:29,631
I even think it's the end of the world

3358
02:28:34,720 --> 02:28:32,811
what is going on where we all think that

3359
02:28:36,461 --> 02:28:34,730
it could be a possibility in the back of

3360
02:28:38,770 --> 02:28:36,471
our minds we know scientifically it

3361
02:28:42,071 --> 02:28:38,780
could but what is it we're doing that

3362
02:28:44,501 --> 02:28:42,081
makes us in our guilty part of conscious

3363
02:28:46,961 --> 02:28:44,511
go you know what is it is it something

3364
02:28:48,310 --> 02:28:46,971
we're doing and that's a good thing I

3365
02:28:49,900 --> 02:28:48,320
think that's a good question

3366
02:28:51,340 --> 02:28:49,910
so we're creating a self-fulfilling

3367
02:28:54,099 --> 02:28:51,350
prophecy

3368
02:28:56,469 --> 02:28:54,109
it's kind of something like that it may

3369
02:28:58,960 --> 02:28:56,479
be a way to avert something that would

3370
02:29:00,340 --> 02:28:58,970
otherwise be inevitable it may be to

3371
02:29:03,040 --> 02:29:00,350
bring something on that's going to be

3372
02:29:05,559 --> 02:29:03,050
painful but in the end helps us who are

3373
02:29:08,469 --> 02:29:05,569
we to say unless we do it we take that

3374
02:29:09,579 --> 02:29:08,479
step we have the conversation buffer do

3375
02:29:14,729 --> 02:29:09,589
you have anything to add to the

3376
02:29:18,609 --> 02:29:14,739
conversation how does the Zuni view well

3377
02:29:21,369 --> 02:29:18,619
again there's having some changes you

3378
02:29:25,029 --> 02:29:21,379
know in the world's past I think what's

3379
02:29:27,880 --> 02:29:25,039
gonna what what's coming on now is that

3380
02:29:29,979 --> 02:29:27,890
the earth is gonna go on I mean the

3381
02:29:32,260 --> 02:29:29,989
planet is not gonna blow up or anything

3382
02:29:34,779 --> 02:29:32,270
like that what has happened is that the

3383
02:29:37,960 --> 02:29:34,789
people appeal it to themselves because

3384
02:29:41,529 --> 02:29:37,970
they've violated what the the rules and

3385
02:29:43,449 --> 02:29:41,539
the the protocols given by them hoping

3386
02:29:45,729 --> 02:29:43,459
that they will not do what they did in

3387
02:29:48,699 --> 02:29:45,739
the past especially among the American

3388
02:29:51,699 --> 02:29:48,709
Indian tribes and so we are not

3389
02:29:55,329 --> 02:29:51,709
following that path in Moore again they

3390
02:30:00,099 --> 02:29:55,339
did up to about I would say about 200

3391
02:30:03,699 --> 02:30:00,109
years ago maybe even maybe even 400

3392
02:30:06,369 --> 02:30:03,709
years ago until they had a virus that

3393
02:30:09,369 --> 02:30:06,379
was put into the to the community system

3394
02:30:11,829 --> 02:30:09,379
which were that for the Inquisition of

3395
02:30:14,889 --> 02:30:11,839
the Spanish and in the conquerors and

3396
02:30:17,199 --> 02:30:14,899
they deviated from that and they were so

3397
02:30:19,389 --> 02:30:17,209
doing they deviated from the practices

3398
02:30:21,460 --> 02:30:19,399
in the protocols given by the by the

3399
02:30:23,949 --> 02:30:21,470
star brothers and and the different

3400
02:30:26,769 --> 02:30:23,959
deities we saw that the death is going

3401
02:30:29,920 --> 02:30:26,779
on from speed but again we were in a

3402
02:30:32,889 --> 02:30:29,930
very different type of world but it

3403
02:30:35,739 --> 02:30:32,899
still has to go through there now the

3404
02:30:39,309 --> 02:30:35,749
question of the dark forces came up

3405
02:30:42,540 --> 02:30:39,319
about the reason that the the dark one

3406
02:30:45,819 --> 02:30:42,550
was created from the beginning by the

3407
02:30:49,380 --> 02:30:45,829
Creator was there will tell us for

3408
02:30:53,199 --> 02:30:49,390
population check so they will not have a

3409
02:30:57,340 --> 02:30:53,209
population in the Zuni mythology but

3410
02:31:02,399 --> 02:30:57,350
which or the black dark force had the

3411
02:31:05,059 --> 02:31:02,409
ear of corn which was which were the

3412
02:31:07,880 --> 02:31:05,069
food for all the people of

3413
02:31:11,569 --> 02:31:07,890
people and that's the reason that he got

3414
02:31:14,389 --> 02:31:11,579
saved to be on this planet however the

3415
02:31:16,790 --> 02:31:14,399
dark forces overcame their good because

3416
02:31:18,769 --> 02:31:16,800
a lot of our good people went over on

3417
02:31:21,769 --> 02:31:18,779
the dark side that's why I talk about

3418
02:31:23,840 --> 02:31:21,779
the dark side and this is prevalent with

3419
02:31:26,540 --> 02:31:23,850
other societies especially with other

3420
02:31:28,579 --> 02:31:26,550
races you can look at whatever you want

3421
02:31:31,250 --> 02:31:28,589
to put it I'm sitting over here in Zuni

3422
02:31:33,199 --> 02:31:31,260
America I don't have any influence but

3423
02:31:35,840 --> 02:31:33,209
other things except but the teachings of

3424
02:31:37,819 --> 02:31:35,850
my grandfather's were and I could pretty

3425
02:31:39,800 --> 02:31:37,829
well tell that this is what's going on

3426
02:31:42,409 --> 02:31:39,810
in the rest of the world that's or those

3427
02:31:45,529 --> 02:31:42,419
are the dark forces that are creating

3428
02:31:47,659 --> 02:31:45,539
this big old thing about end of the

3429
02:31:50,149 --> 02:31:47,669
world and they're blaming the Mayas if

3430
02:31:53,659 --> 02:31:50,159
only they could learn about what their

3431
02:31:57,050 --> 02:31:53,669
whole system is they're only looking

3432
02:31:58,880 --> 02:31:57,060
from the outside looking into them into

3433
02:32:01,849 --> 02:31:58,890
the Maya they're not they have never

3434
02:32:04,159 --> 02:32:01,859
gone inside their room with the Maya and

3435
02:32:09,979 --> 02:32:04,169
looked out backwards it's going to be a

3436
02:32:12,170 --> 02:32:09,989
different vision yeah and and and

3437
02:32:15,019 --> 02:32:12,180
there's also again I'd like to emphasize

3438
02:32:17,689 --> 02:32:15,029
there's a reason you know with the

3439
02:32:19,550 --> 02:32:17,699
Spanish the Maya they they think they

3440
02:32:22,880 --> 02:32:19,560
were pretty close in estimating them to

3441
02:32:24,889 --> 02:32:22,890
be three million strong and by the time

3442
02:32:28,609 --> 02:32:24,899
the Spanish were done there were less

3443
02:32:33,139 --> 02:32:28,619
than a hundred thousand and if that

3444
02:32:37,519 --> 02:32:33,149
doesn't you know make you keep secrets

3445
02:32:41,059 --> 02:32:37,529
because you know that free knowledge the

3446
02:32:44,119 --> 02:32:41,069
church was very fearful of it and of the

3447
02:32:47,029 --> 02:32:44,129
knowledge and of the prize also that

3448
02:32:50,750 --> 02:32:47,039
that thing of that they that that the

3449
02:32:52,159 --> 02:32:50,760
Maya people know like I say they because

3450
02:32:54,529 --> 02:32:52,169
they they believe that they're going to

3451
02:32:56,359 --> 02:32:54,539
keep coming back and they're not going

3452
02:32:58,639 --> 02:32:56,369
to like start out like an you know the

3453
02:33:00,679 --> 02:32:58,649
Hindu theory they're going to go boo

3454
02:33:02,329 --> 02:33:00,689
being a whole bunch of animals and then

3455
02:33:04,939 --> 02:33:02,339
they finally get you're reincarnated as

3456
02:33:07,099 --> 02:33:04,949
human that they think they're going to

3457
02:33:09,679 --> 02:33:07,109
be able to come back so quickly that

3458
02:33:12,050 --> 02:33:09,689
that gives them a fearlessness about the

3459
02:33:14,119 --> 02:33:12,060
whole situation they're they're

3460
02:33:17,269 --> 02:33:14,129
completely they're people that are

3461
02:33:19,160 --> 02:33:17,279
willing to get on a chicken bus with

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02:33:21,349 --> 02:33:19,170
pack to the wood

3463
02:33:24,229 --> 02:33:21,359
Braham with all these people and I

3464
02:33:26,360 --> 02:33:24,239
strapped on top in bagging and chickens

3465
02:33:28,639 --> 02:33:26,370
and the bus catches on fire and they're

3466
02:33:40,670 --> 02:33:28,649
going down a mountain and they're ok

3467
02:33:43,309 --> 02:33:40,680
with it last time I was in Guatemala I

3468
02:33:46,460 --> 02:33:43,319
saw that and I was just like you know

3469
02:33:52,219 --> 02:33:46,470
these people they are fearless they are

3470
02:33:55,880 --> 02:33:52,229
not as just the Western world the white

3471
02:33:58,399 --> 02:33:55,890
man framework of our reality is this is

3472
02:34:00,380 --> 02:33:58,409
our only time this is what's going on

3473
02:34:03,500 --> 02:34:00,390
and our perception it's the only true

3474
02:34:04,880 --> 02:34:03,510
one and we're going to charge ahead it's

3475
02:34:06,649 --> 02:34:04,890
a complete opposite of that

3476
02:34:08,450 --> 02:34:06,659
yeah also I'd like to say this though

3477
02:34:11,630 --> 02:34:08,460
when Johnny says they know they can come

3478
02:34:15,080 --> 02:34:11,640
back in the classic period there's this

3479
02:34:19,519 --> 02:34:15,090
wonderful piece of artwork of the call

3480
02:34:21,590 --> 02:34:19,529
and he is in a boat and this was

3481
02:34:24,260 --> 02:34:21,600
actually carved onto a femur in human

3482
02:34:26,870 --> 02:34:24,270
femur and she has great sadness and

3483
02:34:29,360 --> 02:34:26,880
trepidation because on the outside of

3484
02:34:32,840 --> 02:34:29,370
the Pacal lid there is what would be

3485
02:34:35,450 --> 02:34:32,850
like the sky bam Bardot and the king

3486
02:34:37,969 --> 02:34:35,460
once he dies and drops into the

3487
02:34:41,000 --> 02:34:37,979
underworld he has to go through all

3488
02:34:43,340 --> 02:34:41,010
these trials and the trials as they were

3489
02:34:45,380 --> 02:34:43,350
handed down and spoken and when they

3490
02:34:48,170 --> 02:34:45,390
talked through the portal through the

3491
02:34:51,290 --> 02:34:48,180
Queens to the ancestors the ancestors

3492
02:34:53,389 --> 02:34:51,300
says you need to prepare or you'll be

3493
02:34:56,420 --> 02:34:53,399
stuck there forever or you may not ever

3494
02:34:59,210 --> 02:34:56,430
make it through and so it was with great

3495
02:35:01,340 --> 02:34:59,220
trepidation and sorrow that Kings had to

3496
02:35:05,899 --> 02:35:01,350
make that journey because it was much

3497
02:35:09,260 --> 02:35:05,909
harder than to get up and sit with the

3498
02:35:12,320 --> 02:35:09,270
ancestors that thing from death until

3499
02:35:13,700 --> 02:35:12,330
you go those trials were very hard and

3500
02:35:15,019 --> 02:35:13,710
I'll tell you what we have a trial we

3501
02:35:18,649 --> 02:35:15,029
have to go through right now which is

3502
02:35:21,200 --> 02:35:18,659
ending the show ok but I'm gonna ask you

3503
02:35:23,420 --> 02:35:21,210
Brendan can you or Johnny tell us more

3504
02:35:25,070 --> 02:35:23,430
about the Maya sites travel service give

3505
02:35:27,500 --> 02:35:25,080
us a few seconds of information

3506
02:35:30,979 --> 02:35:27,510
basically the reach all reason that our

3507
02:35:32,840 --> 02:35:30,989
travel company exists is because we saw

3508
02:35:35,210 --> 02:35:32,850
that people were not getting

3509
02:35:36,500 --> 02:35:35,220
a quality experience when they travel to

3510
02:35:39,019 --> 02:35:36,510
the land of the Maya they were getting

3511
02:35:41,149 --> 02:35:39,029
you going on tour buses and all kinds of

3512
02:35:44,149 --> 02:35:41,159
stuff being told about Maya don't exist

3513
02:35:47,120 --> 02:35:44,159
anymore etcetera so we created a niche

3514
02:35:49,429 --> 02:35:47,130
where we assist people in travel in the

3515
02:35:52,130 --> 02:35:49,439
land of the Maya in any sort of way any

3516
02:35:54,469 --> 02:35:52,140
questions anybody have free information

3517
02:35:56,540 --> 02:35:54,479
about how to travel in the four

3518
02:35:59,389 --> 02:35:56,550
countries at the Mayer in Mexico

3519
02:36:02,059 --> 02:35:59,399
Guatemala Belize in Honduras and the

3520
02:36:04,280 --> 02:36:02,069
site is Maya sites dot-com by the way

3521
02:36:06,710 --> 02:36:04,290
it's Maya sites com we have a link at

3522
02:36:09,920 --> 02:36:06,720
the power cast come Chris O'Brien site

3523
02:36:12,290 --> 02:36:09,930
is being redone finally you to see a

3524
02:36:14,120 --> 02:36:12,300
great new look and feel real soon we'll

3525
02:36:16,160 --> 02:36:14,130
be talking as always when we want the

3526
02:36:20,479 --> 02:36:16,170
wisdom of the elders from clifford

3527
02:36:23,899 --> 02:36:20,489
mahooty helping run a trip down to

3528
02:36:26,269 --> 02:36:23,909
Palenque in November and conjunction

3529
02:36:28,729 --> 02:36:26,279
with Maya sites so we'll have a link for

3530
02:36:31,790 --> 02:36:28,739
that too we sure will special thanks to

3531
02:36:33,439 --> 02:36:31,800
Brandon Orion Johnny Chanel and clifford

3532
02:36:51,990 --> 02:36:33,449
mahooty thank you all for joining us

3533
02:36:58,000 --> 02:36:54,450
[Music]

3534
02:37:00,881 --> 02:36:58,010
the para cast featuring gene Steinberg

3535
02:37:03,870 --> 02:37:00,891
and Christopher O'Brien is a copyrighted

3536
02:37:07,600 --> 02:37:03,880
presentation of making the impossible